The Cossacks Feature Stream 1500 CET 20th November
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@DDRJake or @Wiz , I keep seeing similar landmasses being formed in the RNW across different tapings, but put in different places. Is that how the RNW works? Template landmasses randomly placed in the western hemisphere? Or is it purely coincidence that highly similar / identical regions formed in these twitch examples? I originally got the sense that the landmasses themselves would be completely random, but not sure that it's the case.
See the July 9th dev diary on the RNW for more details. The RNW generation is going to be based on handcrafted landmasses.
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As they said, there are 80 different tiles. You can't generate a few hundred provinces with 80 tiles without something looking similar. The only thing that needs a bit more variation in this half-moon-meteorit-crater-island which always looks exactly the same. And I would love a giant continent as big as Eurasia to pop up without seeing it in the lobby, but this seems to be a matter of re-generating until you are satisfied.
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It's WAD.
They needed to comprise between generation time and 'randomness'. The solution they came up with was creating a set of tiles that would be randomly sewn together.
While it isn't truly as random as old system, it will be on par with the old world in terms of province-count and 'feel'.
Patch 1.14 will ship with ~75 tiles and 1.15 will up it to 100 tiles.
IIRC, they said they will plan to increase the numbers in the future and that the community can create their own tiles as well.
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Go re-read the Dev Diary where Wiz mentioned the rework (it was months ago, no, I'm not digging it out for you).
He specifically said that they were using a certain number of "tiles" and that these would be assembled in random combinations, but not trying to procedurally generate the whole world from scratch.
Plus-side is more "realistic" land-masses, down-side is chances of repetition. Oh, and I'm fairly sure he also said we could add our own "tiles" to the mix, so modders can significantly up the number of possible landmasses (I'll be interested to see how long it takes someone to generate Westeros....)
Edit: Ninja'd thrice over, great minds thinking alike...
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Yes he did. And he also said these player-created tiles would not affect checksum.
Great, it used to be like that in EU3 until they introduced Trade Leagues in some expansion and I guess they just left it like that for EU4.
Do we know if all the hanseatic minors will get the Hansa unit models?
Thanks guys, all very helpful. I was in China w/o a VPN when that July 9th Dev Diary came out, which is probably why I missed it.
In translation, does that mean it won't affect Ironman?
In translation, does that mean it won't affect Ironman?
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Ironman will be usable even with mods. Just achievements won't be available. I take the checksum comment to mean that the player-created tiles will allow achievements.
Sunspawn is just trolling. TUR didn't get cores on BYZ lands.
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I know the time for questions is over but I really would like a response to this.
During the stream you moused over several of the random New World Native American nations to show who they were from the normal New World, by using the debug mode. This was at about 52:30 in the live stream.
Several of them were on small islands, and one (this world's Pueblo, in light brown, unfortunately the quality of the steam makes it so i couldn't see the name of it) was on a two-province island, as well as a red nation in the west on a 3-province island and two more on a 5 province island.
If you played these nations with the current rules they would be utterly unplayable. No way to cross to the mainland, no interactions with other nations for the most part, and if you take the colonist and colonize your adjacent provinces, no way to reform your government either (until you are conquered).
It didn't appear as if there were any strait crossings in any location, which of course would have solved the problem since you can migrate and colonize over straits. So, were there strait crossings that I simply couldn't see or are natives getting new migration/colonization mechanics in the epic long patch notes?
During the stream you moused over several of the random New World Native American nations to show who they were from the normal New World, by using the debug mode. This was at about 52:30 in the live stream.
Several of them were on small islands, and one (this world's Pueblo, in light brown, unfortunately the quality of the steam makes it so i couldn't see the name of it) was on a two-province island, as well as a red nation in the west on a 3-province island and two more on a 5 province island.
If you played these nations with the current rules they would be utterly unplayable. No way to cross to the mainland, no interactions with other nations for the most part, and if you take the colonist and colonize your adjacent provinces, no way to reform your government either (until you are conquered).
It didn't appear as if there were any strait crossings in any location, which of course would have solved the problem since you can migrate and colonize over straits. So, were there strait crossings that I simply couldn't see or are natives getting new migration/colonization mechanics in the epic long patch notes?
Miscommunication on my part. I really meant to clarify if RNW landmass mods wouldn't affect ironman. Sounds like they aren't going to, which is great!
You know they keep the DD easily accessible
I for one must have my fix, and if I couldn't see it during that trip, I would have found it when I came back :-D
I would love them to get it, but my expectations are low, an sadly, I think they are just screwed.
You know this was moddable and is going to remain moddable right? lol
(To be fair I am glad about this change I wanted my Marketplace and my Fort in my 1/1/1 provinces D: )
If that historian dude is right, Dhimmis shouldn't even be a state.
But hey, at least the Millet nonsense has been removed! Praise Mehmet.
But hey, at least the Millet nonsense has been removed! Praise Mehmet.
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