The cooperative movement

[Nis Baggesen]

There is a lot of talk about investment pools and Capitalists building factories, and deriving their income from them, but will Victoria 3 have any simulation of the cooperative movement, where e.g. farmers or artisans pooled their wealth to build and own factories? I know that model was behind a significant part of the agricultural industrialization in Denmark, and I know that it existed elsewhere as well.

It seems like something that could be modelled fairly well, by adjusting who contributes to the investment pool, and which pop-types derive incomes from factory profits of different types.

 

[Arbus]

That would be simulated by having farmers and artisans contributing a small fraction to investment point.

It's not unfeasible, and besides coops it would also represent small shareholders.

 

[Ololorium]

They confirmed that the worker-owned factories are a thing under anarchist system of government. I assume it would not be restricted to anarchists only, or at least it would be easy to mod to make such form of capital ownership available for other economic systems.

 

[Woifee]

I think they tried it in soviet Russia to let the factories run by the workers. But Lenin scrapped that after a few years. Wonder why

In many countries farmers founded their own Banks as well.

 

[johnty5]

Really like this idea.

Cooperative movement isn't "sexy" history - no barricades, revolutions or overthrown governments - but it was a big part of the working class movement alongside Trade Unionism in the UK during the time period (not sure about elsewhere). It certainly made a bigger material difference to the British working class during the period than many other movements represented in the game.

 

[Stein14]

Take note:
"Build my Socialist Absolute Monarchy on the basis of cooperatives"
2. Take note:
"Down with the capitalists"

 

[Arbus]

They confirmed that the worker-owned factories are a thing under anarchist system of government. I assume it would not be restricted to anarchists only, or at least it would be easy to mod to make such form of capital ownership available for other economic systems.

Anarchism is a government form? Sounds really interesting, can you provide the source?

 

[Woifee]

Anarchism is a government form? Sounds really interesting, can you provide the source?

Propably Observer Mode

 

[Raph]

A very good idea to include. And it would be interesting to see other types of cooperatives besides producer cooperatives (worker or farmer cooperatives). In Sweden the consumer's cooperative movement became very influential during the later decades of V3's timespan.

 

[Ololorium]

Anarchism is a government form? Sounds really interesting, can you provide the source?

Here, I attached screenshots from this reddit post:

 

[Arbus]

Here, I attached screenshots from this reddit post:

Super interesting thanks!

 

[Shinkuro Yukinari]

I think they tried it in soviet Russia to let the factories run by the workers. But Lenin scrapped that after a few years. Wonder why

In many countries farmers founded their own Banks as well.

Not really? There were cooperative enterprises in the USSR throughout its existence. Most famously the Kolkhoz system of collective farms, but also certain types of small enterprises. Their roles were much more marginalized compared to SOEs, but they were present.