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Archduke: I'm wondering if it is possible to move provinces from one continent to another? If so, would you consider moving the Levant/Palestine into Europe? Naturally, I'd volunteer to do the work.
 

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That and to allow European countries to get some manpower out of the holy land -- but the mercenaries is the primary concern.
 

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Hmm, why not. Actually most of North Africa should be there, too imo..
 

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TheArchduke said:
Hmm, why not. Actually most of North Africa should be there, too imo..

I was thinking of suggesting that too, but it would seem strange having most of North Africa not actually on the African continent.
 

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Medicine Man said:
I was thinking of suggesting that too, but it would seem strange having most of North Africa not actually on the African continent.
I won't really show in-game, there are mostly game effects. And yes, I would like the Mameluks to be "europeans" since they should be able to claim Somalia. While you're at it include Iraq province as well.
 

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Iraq, why?

I would say definetly no, there, only coastal provinces..
 

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Ok, makes sense.:)
 

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Hmm, I saw this thread and I was like... hmmmm. A bit innovative.

But I think it will be good if we can do it. I can't see a way it can do any harm, and the arguments for it are good ones. After all, continental Asian and African powers (excluding Mamelukes and Caliphate of course) should still be able to get their manpower from N Africa/Iraq through continguous land provinces.
 

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Fine by me.
 

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Another positive aspect of this change is that it would get the Kingdom of Jerusalem and Kingdom of Syria teaming up against the Kaliphate. At present, one of them seems to regard the Caliph as a mere colonial enemy and doesn't call for help in the event of a DoW -- sheer lunacy. :)
 

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Medicine Man said:
Another positive aspect of this change is that it would get the Kingdom of Jerusalem and Kingdom of Syria teaming up against the Kaliphate. At present, one of them seems to regard the Caliph as a mere colonial enemy and doesn't call for help in the event of a DoW -- sheer lunacy. :)
And since Kingdom of Syria has a core on Lebanon, owned by Kingdom of Jerusalem, starting relations are negative.
 

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And since Kingdom of Syria has a core on Lebanon, owned by Kingdom of Jerusalem, starting relations are negative.

That should be corrected by adding good starting relations between those two.
 

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Did this change end up getting done? I was hoping to see it in 1.00, but it doesn't look like it's there quite yet...

It'd be nice to get it in before we start the MP game, so I might have a go at getting it working tonight, unless of course someone else's got it under control or we think it's a bad idea...

EDIT -

Looking at province.csv, I advise changing every province in the following two regions: Levant (Middle East) and Egypt (North Africa). You could pick and choose, but I think it's neater to group them together.

Levant contains Aleppo, Nuyssabin, Azerbaijan, Kirkuk, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Samaria, Judea, Sinai, Jordan, Arabia, and Basrah.

Egypt contains Quattara, Cataract, Alexandria, Delta, Egypt, and Nile.


I could put the rest of North Africa in, but I don't see it as needed, as Algiers and Morocco aren't majors. The changes above will cover Mamelukes, Kingdom of Jerusalem, and the Kaliphate, which is what we need.

I'll make the changes tonight (It'll take five minutes :D ), and run some tests, we'll see how we go.
 
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North Africa is fine nevertheless, put them in.
 

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TheArchduke said:
North Africa is fine nevertheless, put them in.

Yeah, can't hurt. I've made the changes and emailed them to you (from my work account - it's a quiet day today) - I'll test them when I get home in about three hours.