The complete book of Badboy, take two

[JohnMK]

I guess the best way, then, to acquire these pagans, virtually BB point free, is to take all but their last provinces in the first war, vassalize them in the second, convert them in the third, then diplo-annex.

 

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Bb table (on russian)

For EU1 is badboy table (but on russian only): http://www.snowball.ru/forums/?board=europa - in FAQ...

I think make it for EU2 too...

not so much differents but very interesting

I play as Russia and BB for annexation Kazan is only 2 (1 for DoW vith CB and 1 for annexation country another religion)...

Take over provinces vith russian shields after war - NOT BB ...

Take provinces vithout shields - BB + 1 for province...

Excuse, my English is not good

 

[kurtbrian]

Thanks Secret Master!

I will add that to the top post right away!!

 

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Colonies and TPs

Colonies and TPs are BB free in peace settlements, but cost 1 BB point per province for annexation (diplo or military).

 

[kurtbrian]

thanks!

Another question

I think I read somewhere that turbo-annexation gives 3 points per province

Can anybody confirm this??

 

[unmerged(760)]

another question: are those initial wars in Jan.1419 offensive or defensive?

PS: this thread should be sticky!

 

[JohnMK]

Actually I believe it's simply two per province. I'm talking about turbo annexation, of course.

 

[BiB]

Originally posted by JohnMK
I guess the best way, then, to acquire these pagans, virtually BB point free, is to take all but their last provinces in the first war, vassalize them in the second, convert them in the third, then diplo-annex.

How can u wage a third war on them and keep them as vassal?

 

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So far I've seen the BB numbers appear to be correct. As Denmark I DOW'd an alliance of Holstein, Bremen, Mecklenberg, and some others. By 1423 I had force-annexed Bremen, Holstein, and Mecklenberg. The war was started with my DOW versus Holstein who I had an CB on. According to the numbers, thats 1+6+6+6 = 19. A check of my BB and, 19 it is.

I thought the BB points were lower in 1.04. Am I mistaken?

 

[kurtbrian]

Originally posted by BiB


How can u wage a third war on them and keep them as vassal?

What if he somehow made his ally declare war on them???

could it happen that higly unlikely way???

 

[kurtbrian]

Originally posted by WKE235
According to the numbers, thats 1+6+6+6 = 19. A check of my BB and, 19 it is.

Glad to be of service!

 

[unmerged(1064)]

Originally posted by kurtbrian
thanks!

Another question

I think I read somewhere that turbo-annexation gives 3 points per province

Can anybody confirm this??

I can confirm for 1.04, but not for 1.05.

 

[kurtbrian]

I tried it myself with ottomans in 1419 with 1.05 and it is still 3 points!

But thanks anyway

Always great when someone reach the same conclusion as me!

 

[BiB]

Originally posted by kurtbrian


What if he somehow made his ally declare war on them???

could it happen that higly unlikely way???

Don't think so with the new dipmo consequances of waging wars in 1.05.

 

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Good work, KurtBrian! Nearly thought you will mysteriously disappear after the realease of the patch I have made a shorter list for everyone who wants to print this out with the last drip ink of their printer.

SACRILEGE!!!

Did anyone check if there are BB points for diplo annexing, too?

Declarations of War:
DOW Pagan = 0
DOW Vassal = 0
DOW CB = 1
DOW Truce = 1
DOW noCB = 4

Peace Resolutions:
Vassalize = 0

National Province = 0
Province (From Pagan as European) = 0
Province (w/o Shield, DEF) = 1
Province (w/o Shield, OFF) = 2
Province (Turbo-Annex) = 3

Annexation Other = 1
Annexation Pagan (as European) = 5
Annexation Same = 6

Other:
Comission of Privateers = 1

 

[kurtbrian]

There are, but I haven't gotten around to testing that yet

 

[Grunthex]

Originally posted by kurtbrian


What if he somehow made his ally declare war on them???

could it happen that higly unlikely way???

No, under 1.05, no matter how you declare war on them, even if it is helping an ally, it breaks vassalage and RM (as it should have all along)

 

[P.Q. Varus]

Thank-you for doing this work. It will be very helpful. I had just been tripping in and out of wars with my fingers crossed.

 

[unmerged(760)]

Originally posted by kurtbrian
Military annexation other
= 1
Military annexation of Pagan
= 5 (note, that you don't recieve any additional points if you annex them with more than one province

this one seems ridiculous: you only get 1BB when, lets say, annexing the ottomans as spain, and 5BB when annexing the aztecs?

this one i dont understand: what additional points are you talking about? DOW on pagans is free (as european), and taking provinces is too. so it should be 5 BB per fully annexed pagan nation anyway - or did i miss you?

 

[Castellon]

Re: Re: The complete book of Badboy, take two

Originally posted by weird god
this one i dont understand: what additional points are you talking about? DOW on pagans is free (as european), and taking provinces is too. so it should be 5 BB per fully annexed pagan nation anyway - or did i miss you?

Yep you missed him
He is saying there is NO additional points.