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Hamza said:
I have been reading this AAR, from start to finish, for about a week. I have no words; I am stunned. It has become the focus of my lunch hour. I want to recap, for any of you who may have forgotten, how genuinely amazing what LM+ has managed to do:

As a player, LM+ has few equals. First of all, he's a terrific writer and updates - ALOT. But that's minor. Starting as a 3rd-rate power, LM+'s Brazil has managed to support the entire weight of the United Nations -- the ENTIRE WEIGHT -- in a Difficult game using a MOD that supercharges the Reich. France has fallen. The SOVIET UNION is over. For awhile, Britain was a memory. And still Brazil and the United States fought on. I have never seen such gamemanship. And I can honestly say, it has not been luck - LM+ has been one of the unluckiest players I've ever read, between nitwit AI allies, bad weather and really bad timing. It's all skill from him. No one picks up and stumbles on from things like that. No one.

His playing is academic, and we should all take a lesson from his abilities. He doesn't rely on encirclement. Instead he tenaciously studies and analyzes his strengths and weaknesses, and fights battles utilizing all of them. Classic generalship, but a kind that is sorely underused in HOI2. This AAR is a lesson in logistics; a premier to read for any serious HOI2 player -- especially those new to the game.

LM+ has won this game. He has survived the nader - the lowest possible point - when England was invaded. America and Brazil stood alone. But LM+ regrouped, took stock of the situation, and looked for a weakness. He clawed his way into Asia and Europe. Germany's defeat is not a matter of if, but when. The only thing that can defeat LM+ is the clock - something which I believe he RICHLY DESERVES TO REMOVE. Go buy yourself Doomsday and load the game up, or, just slip in a no-time-limit mod. Don't do it for yourself, do it for your loyal readers. We deserve to see this AAR to its conclusion.

The best HOI2 AAR I've ever read. Period.

Well said and I totally agree with one minor change = "I have read no better AAR" [yogi and met are on the same level to me, prolly kat too] But the instruction you speak of is the best thing about this AAR and where no other AAR is as good. Reading it plainly showed me how little I understood about logistics. I hope LM+ immediately starts another AAR after this one is over, just wonderful stuff.
 

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Hamza said:
The only thing that can defeat LM+ is the clock - something which I believe he RICHLY DESERVES TO REMOVE.

The best HOI2 AAR I've ever read. Period.
Maybe the clock CAN defeat Brazil, but I don't think it WILL. I would certainly not object to a NTL if LM+ is still interested, as this is an incredible AAR. But I'm calling it right now:

All German cores will be occupied Brazilian territory by December 30, 1947
 

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I think LM+ should get Doomsday anyway. Everyone should.

AUTOSLIDERS. It's worth it just for them :D
 

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I also began reading the AAR some days ago, although there is something that it is "very ahistorical" from the point of RP it was created.
When Argentina declared war on Brazil (Because of the German-Polish war), LM+ had planned to hold out in Curitiba mountains (If I'm not mistaken), however as Hitler would outflank France's Maginot Line, I must admit the most probable thing to happen was for Argentina to outflank Curitiba's mountain by passing through Paraguay (I think the Argentinian Dictator claimed it as a part of Argentina), and it would have been quite interesting to see how would that situation would unfold. But so far, so good.
 

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What a great story!

I am new to Doomsday, got it for 5 days now and after getting beaten badly with playing the germans w/o proper knowledge of many of the game mechanisms I followed an advice found somewhere on this forum: "Start with a minor, start with Brazil". I did for a couple of hours and then while looking around in the forums I found this AAR. I immediately started reading it as it relates to the country I had chosen for my humble start-up in Doomsday. Guess what, like so many others I was hooked and my own gameplay came to an immediate halt and I spent almost all of my time that I am able to dedicate to wargaming reading this AAR - a stunning narrative, a strategic textbook and a story that answered a lot of potential questions I might have had on gameplay, mainly on supplies. Its day 5 now and I am finally done with catching-up with LM+'s story, eager to get back to learning this simulation, inspired by the atmosphere of this AAR, that really makes the reader feel as being part of the campaign. Thanks LM+ for showing me how much there is still left to discover while playing. An outstanding AAR (compared to other wargames, have not read any other HoI2 ones, when should I???) that makes me want more.
Bests,
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Are you sure that that advice wasn't for Victoria? Starting as Brazil is not a normal strategy in HOI2, AFAIK.
 

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Fulcrumvale said:
Are you sure that that advice wasn't for Victoria? Starting as Brazil is not a normal strategy in HOI2, AFAIK.

Really? I've seen it mention in every single "who should I start as?"/"which minor should I play"-thread.
The general opinion seems to be that Brazil is perfect for both cases; it's far away from the usual fighting, has a decent IC and can join the allies whenever it pleases.

And this AAR really is superb!
 

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Fulcrumvale said:
Are you sure that that advice wasn't for Victoria? Starting as Brazil is not a normal strategy in HOI2, AFAIK.
Pretty sure it was Brazil, I was humming the song and theme tune from the wonderfull Terry Gilliam movie while making my selection...
 

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Eams said:
Really? I've seen it mention in every single "who should I start as?"/"which minor should I play"-thread.
The general opinion seems to be that Brazil is perfect for both cases; it's far away from the usual fighting, has a decent IC and can join the allies whenever it pleases.

And this AAR really is superb!
Oh. Well, uh... :eek:o

My advice would be to play an American game on very easy.
 

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I started playing HOI2 with Japan :D I got pretty much walked over the first time. My advice is to start with the battlescenarios. Like the Ardennes offensive. It lets you focus on figuring out the combat mechanisms without having to deal with anything else.
 

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IMO, America is a bad choice for a noob. To much stuff to manage. My choice would be the Soviets. Only one front to worry about, plenty of IC, resources, manpower and room for error.
 

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stnylan: In my opinion, there's no chance that an AI D-day somewhere other than Italy would work. The only result would be to get one or the other front pocketed and crushed, because neither the Americans nor the Brazilians have enough force to fight in two, seperate theatres unable to support the other. Lack of transport also seems a problem. But I could be wrong about this. It all depends if the German AI gets confused enough or not.

Fulcrumvale: The next update will tell all.

cuchuclain: Just the idea I had. Hence the left hook. Let's see what comes of it, shall we?

Congo: Were you asking about total Axis or total Allied losses, and, if so, in what timeframe? The short answer is that I'm not sure, but 1) I'm losing men faster than I was a couple of months ago and 2) the Germans continue to take heavy loss. The Americans aren't getting off lightly either; it's a bloodbath for all concerned.

Bismarck1: The problem with Greece is that it would be easy to get approximately to the Bulgarian border, at which point three things would happen: 1) the German army would arrive. 2) The Bulgarians and Romanians would get a fair crack at me. 3) After a little while, winter would arrive in the mountains. Why do I know these things? Because in my last AAR (playing Britain) that's exactly what happened!

lifeless: I had hoped for better results from the right hook than I got. With enemy forces too strong for success, Brazil is exacuating. Split will be cheerfully abandoned. Let's see how the left hook fares, shall we?

Lutzow: I did end up annexing Croatia. For the satisfaction value if nothing else.

Berrie, pjap, Vann the Red, Adaptation: For all the news you wanted to hear about the plan to outflank the enemy out of Southern France, read on.

Vincent Julian: No, no, no, I am NOT landing in northern France this campaigning season! Reasons why include: 1) It would take almost until winter for my transports to ferry everyone to the beaches of northern France, 2) Leaving Italy would guarantee the destruction of every American division in the place, and 3) An invasion of N. France will cause the main fight with the German army to be conducted inland, where one of Brazil's most important weapons - shore bombardment - can't impact the result.

ju87: I have specifically instructed the USA AI not to build nukes.

Admiral_Nelson: Thank you!

Hamza: I feel desperately unworthy of such praise. I do indeed plan to carry on regardless of success or failure. If as and when time looks to run out, I'll think very seriously about what to do then.

noobermenschen: I guarantee that Germany will not be Brazilian-occupied. It might conceivably be American-occupied, however. The Americans are, after all, our logistics Sugar Daddies.

Alexus: I do indeed have Doomsday. :) Well worth the money.

Jolt: That's an excellent point. Never thought about that!

MAC: Thanks.

MartinB: Welcome to this AAR, HOI2 (wonderful game!), and to the Paradox Forums! I hope you have as much fun as I am (I can't imagine having more).

Nations for Newbies: I seem to recall my first game was as Canada. I figured that no way was I going to get annexed and could build just the right size of army to learn the game without getting overwhelmed.
 

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1946, August 21st:
- The Brazilian Navy pays off some of its older destroyers to free up manpower for land operations. Destroyers older than the Amazonas-class series contribute little to shore bombardment and so can be easily spared.

- The Germans finish off the Americans in Rimini and we launch a spoiling attack on Rijeka to cover the evacuation of General Neto's armies in Croatia. German fighters reappear after a quiet period to ravage a CAS air army; The Brazilian airforce has taken heavier casualties of late then we expected, due to mobile and fixed AA (German AA efficiency is now at 225%). Putting too many fighters on ground attack instead of air superiority hasn't helped any either...
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1946, August 22nd - 27th:
- President Gomes rethinks the matter of Croatia; Brazil annexes the country. 47 Axis divisions gather in Ljubjana and other nearby to retake the place, now the most important military objective to Hitler and his allies. The German drive south in Italy continues, but they are now running into the same problems we did earlier: miserable infrastructure in Rimini and Florence and defenders waiting to counterattack anyone who enters what has become a ruin-strewn shooting gallery.
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- The Americans, whose idea of a holding defence is an all-out attack, blissfully cruise right back into Rimini. Shore bombardment keeps things from getting too nasty. The Italians tire of the upkeep on their last remaining warship, the modern fast battleship Cristoforo Colombo, and order its unhappy captain and panicked crew to prowl, unescorted, off Genoa. The Axis pay no attention.


1946, August 28th:
- Brazilian forces evacuate the Adriatic coast. Grand Admiral Macedo Correa Pinto and Field Marshal Marscarenhas de Morais discuss what needs to happen next.
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1946, September 1st - 3rd:
- Most of the Brazilian Navy cruises around the Italian boot to the west. American and German troops trade long-suffering Rimini and Florence several times, the Germans eventually coming off the winners.


1946, September 4th - 5th:
- Vasconcelos' highly experienced marines make short work of the Vichy defenders of Nice and begin to make for shore. A day later we realize that Brazilian occupation is NOT what we want in this case: The Americans get three new divisions and landing operations begin all over again.


1946, September 5th - 6th:
- Hausser, in unpleasant contrast, is wasting no time. Just before midnight on the 5th, he orders "Panzers Vor" and 19 divisions, 10 armored and all the rest mechanized or motorized with self-propelled or heavy attachments, hurl themselves at the Brazilian defenders of Perugia.
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- We counterattack Florence, drawing off nine divisions and leaving Justo in charge, who convincingly demonstrates the superior power of German armour, even attacking into the hills and against fortifications. We retreat to Cassino an hour after dawn.
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1946, September 7th:
- The exulting Germans gleefully ride into our shattered formations and drive upon Anzio to cut off Rome. To their horror, however, Brazil overtrumps: At them we hurl Gomes' massed CAS and, just to make destruction quite sure, a counter attack to force the enemy to "cycle" in and out of what has suddenly been revealed as a deadly trap. Perugia, the only province the Axis own in the Central Italy airzone, makes a magnificent killing ground.
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1946, September 8th:
- Vasconcelos secures a beachhead and hands over logistical responsibility to those who do it much better than we can. As weak Slovakian and Vichy French forces harass our marines, Brazilian reinforcements race to land.
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1946, September 9th - 10th:
- How quickly hope is dashed. Germany smashes through and past Perugia by sheer brute mass. Anzio falls! Rome is cut off! With extraordinary speed and force a least two hundred divisions are driving into Italy. By attacking the Balkans we did indeed encourage the Germans to guard their left flank ... but they used additional forces out of central Europe to do it, leaving their center, never weakened, now more powerful than ever.
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- We've been Dunkirked. This is dreadfully familiar, but the risks now are greater then they were even in Britain. Virtually all of Brazil's mobile divisions are now pocketed in Rome and Nice. With nothing like enough strength to make a left-hand blow work, and our enemies having seized the initiative we held, de Morais' grand plan has well and truly been defeated. Now we must save what we can.
 
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LM+: ...Virtually all of Brazil's mobile divisions are now pocketed in Rome and Nice.

if you are trying to make us nervous, you are successful ! ! :eek:

horrible results! ! ::sad::

even so, excellent update! ! :cool: