The Centralistic Monarchistic Party of Justice (CMJ) - HQ

[unmerged(5730)]

The Centralistic Monarchistic Party of Justice​

CMJ stands for Justice and realistic ideas that prevents the different classes in Eutopia to continue moving from eachother. Still we believe that a man, or woman, must have the oppertunity to climb up.

Concerning the way of Ruling Eutopia
We believe in the King as the protector of the lands. We believe that a Council should be set up existing of three to fourhundered Men or Women. These will be from different Parties and the way the Council is split between them will be deicded in a vote of the people. The Party getting the most votes (or the parties if they wish to rule together), will make a group existing of approximatly twenty people that will be the ruling power of Eutopia. The King will have a parmantent plcae in the Council and in the Ruling group.

Concerning the Military
For a long time Eutopia has never been threatend by war. Its place between America and Europe is ideal. From no way are we threatend by war which means that we can put our money in other pockets than in the militaristic ones. Although the defense should not be abondend. We need to keep our neutrality and not be depended on other countries armies.

Concerning the Economy
We believe that all people needs to be more equal. We believe in relativy high taxes, so that the ones in the lowest part don't have to suffer so that the ones high up can get it even better. Although we believe that an individual has to have the chance to climb high and by hard work get a richer lifestyle than others.

Concerning the Healthcare
The healthcare should be public and free. A maximum distance between the hospitals will be 100 km, so that it will be avaliable for everyone.

Concerning the School and other Childquestions
Everyone has the right and also the duty to go to school. English will have to be read by everyone and if they so wish the languages of French and Spanish. We are for Abortion but strongly against Homosexual adoptions because of the fact that we sees to the good for the child who we believe has the right to a mother and a father.

Concerning the Foreign affairs
We believe that Eutopia has to have a strong relationship to Europe, America and other continents. But we also believe in neutrality and that we should stay out of organisations such as EU and NATO, atleast for now. Membership in UN is ofcourse totally accepted.

Concerning the Environment
We believe that something has to be done to the Enviroment disasters that is going on. The global heating and the death of animal spieces has to stop, and this can only be solved by global co-operation.

Concerning the Crimes and Punishments
It is with great concern we see the decreesing acts of crime. We believe in heavy punishments and strongly want the daeth penalty to stay. But in now way can we accept Eutopia to become a state filled with policemen, which would be just as bad as one filled with criminals.

Concerning the Immigration
The heavy Immigration inot Eutopia has to be stopped, we need to deal with our own problems before we can handle others. People that have works that we are in lack of will immediately be granted to come to Eutopia, and after some time they will be viewed as Citizens.

Concerning the Role of the State
To make everything avaliable to everyone the state will run things as the Schools, the Hospitals, the Traincompany, etc. Although the price needs to be kept at the lowest level possible.
_________________________________________________

Members of the Party

Kent von Ahseed-Lentigner (Kent I Wallmi)
Don Jaron de Marko de Mallorca, neopatria y azores (Jaron)
Bob le Royaliste Vangeel de Lichtaart (Royalist)

 

[unmerged(5730)]

Newspaper of the party

 

[unmerged(5730)]

spare

 

[Deaghaidh]

I take it you are in favor not only of a return of the Monarchy but of an increase in monarchial power?

 

[Fireblade]

I, Fireblade Sabaya, would like to join.

 

[unmerged(8303)]

I, Don Jaron de Marko de Mallorca, neopatria y azores endorse this party and seek full membership.

 

[unmerged(5730)]

Originally posted by Deaghaidh
I take it you are in favor not only of a return of the Monarchy but of an increase in monarchial power?

That is correct Sir. But first prioroty is ofcourse to install a monarch, then we can have discussions about what power he should have. Although we wishes to increase the King's power. Not so that it becomes a dictature, but he needs to be able to express his ideas and he atleast needs a permanent place in the Council.

 

[unmerged(5730)]

Originally posted by Fireblade
I, Fireblade Sabaya, would like to join.

Originally posted by Jaron
I, Don Jaron de Marko de Mallorca, neopatria y azores endorse this party and seek full membership.

Great , you are both very welcome, then I guess we are a Real Party now

 

[unmerged(9119)]

Originally posted by Jaron
I, Don Jaron de Marko de Mallorca, neopatria y azores endorse this party and seek full membership.

[OOC] I would like to say that Açores don't have a duke or any thing like that, you can be the duke of bragaza or some thing like this the city have a duke but not açores. I said Bragaza because that is the most important monarchist city in Portugal [/OOC]

 

[Deaghaidh]

Out of curiosity, who is your claimant to the throne? Are you proposing the adoption of a new royal line?

 

[unmerged(5730)]

Originally posted by Deaghaidh
Out of curiosity, who is your claimant to the throne? Are you proposing the adoption of a new royal line?

As I have heard it there is no eral hier to the throne. So I would suggest that a ruler is picked from some other european Royal House.

 

[unmerged(4007)]

Mr Wallmi,

This is not actually true, as there is a minor member of the former Ruling Family who has returned to EUtopia, and thus would be the only legal choice.

 

[unmerged(5730)]

Originally posted by shawng1
Mr Wallmi,

This is not actually true, as there is a minor member of the former Ruling Family who has returned to EUtopia, and thus would be the only legal choice.

Then would they ofcourse get the throne

 

[Bagricula]

His Eminence, Immanuel Silberfel, Bishop of Hannover
​

"Mr. Ahseed-Lentigner, your proposals are most interesting, and your party's goal to restore the monarchy most well-laid out. I am, however, concerned by your party's policies regarding the murder of unborn children and murder by the state.

As I agree that the issue of abortion is a most uncomfortable issue for many, and certainly one of moral and ethical ambiguity, I can suffer the legalization of the procedure, however, I could only do so knowing that the state and indeed all institutions of society were working to their fullest extent to dissuade the wouldbe mother from such a dire and morally questionable course.

Execution is nothing more than legalized murder by the state. If the state is made into a killer then all of its components and indeed all of its citizens share in the bloody act. None can usurp the sole authority of the Lord in matters of life and death.

Your policies regarding health care, education, and the environment seem all to be in line with the teachings of the Mother Church and the Word of God. I look forward to more detailed information regarding your unemployment policy, as well as the possibility of religious education.

Finally, I am gravely concerned about the choice of royal dynasty should the crown be restored. The House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha has not only shown itself to be incapable of providing this country with the moral and emotional leadership necessary, but they are Protestant. If perhaps this last heir of the line of Ernst I would be willing to embrace the guidance of Rome, I might be able to believe that God would finally bless us with a good and worthy Monarch."

 

[unmerged(4029)]

I, Bob le Royaliste Vangeel de Lichtaart, wish to join the Eutopian Centralistic Monarchist Party of Justice.

 

[unmerged(5730)]

Originally posted by Royalist
I, Bob le Royaliste Vangeel de Lichtaart, wish to join the Eutopian Centralistic Monarchist Party of Justice.

You are very welcome

 

[unmerged(5730)]

Originally posted by Bagricula

His Eminence, Immanuel Silberfel, Bishop of Hannover​

​

"Mr. Ahseed-Lentigner, your proposals are most interesting, and your party's goal to restore the monarchy most well-laid out. I am, however, concerned by your party's policies regarding the murder of unborn children and murder by the state.

As I agree that the issue of abortion is a most uncomfortable issue for many, and certainly one of moral and ethical ambiguity, I can suffer the legalization of the procedure, however, I could only do so knowing that the state and indeed all institutions of society were working to their fullest extent to dissuade the wouldbe mother from such a dire and morally questionable course.

I believe that a child has not gained its soul before it is born. And the general oppinion I believe is that way. E.g. we count our age from the day we were born, not from the day we were made. Also abortion is the last way out for many people. It isn't something you do because it is fun, no, it is because you know that this child would not get a worthy life, not get the life you wished him/her to get. That is why I believe in abortion.

Execution is nothing more than legalized murder by the state. If the state is made into a killer then all of its components and indeed all of its citizens share in the bloody act. None can usurp the sole authority of the Lord in matters of life and death.

I believe that we are obligated to execute the biggest and most dangerous criminals. This is a very important question to me, let me take an example. A murder has killed several people, he gets into jail, but then he is released again. Tell me, what right do we have to jeopordize peoples lives? Are we not obligated to kill that man who took other peoples lives instead of giving him the oppertunity to kill again?

Your policies regarding health care, education, and the environment seem all to be in line with the teachings of the Mother Church and the Word of God. I look forward to more detailed information regarding your unemployment policy, as well as the possibility of religious education.

Ops, I guess I forgot that in the first post. Anyhow I believe that it needs to be discussed with me fellow party members. My oppinion is that they, the unemployed, needs to get cash from the state, not much, but so they can live decent. Anyhow, they to not get it for free, to get those moneys they will have to do jobs for the state, like cutting grass or something like that. In religous education I believe that no religion shoudl be favourised in the school, the people have to decide by themself what to become.

Finally, I am gravely concerned about the choice of royal dynasty should the crown be restored. The House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha has not only shown itself to be incapable of providing this country with the moral and emotional leadership necessary, but they are Protestant. If perhaps this last heir of the line of Ernst I would be willing to embrace the guidance of Rome, I might be able to believe that God would finally bless us with a good and worthy Monarch."

The question about who will raise the throne of Eutopia is discussed greatly. Our party have not decided our candidate yet, so on that question I have no answer, although I believe that him being a protestant man would not be something bad, more like the other way around.

Thank you for your questions

/Kent von Ahseed-Lentigner

 

[unmerged(5730)]

Fellow Members of the CMJ

I Have three questions for you.

1. As you all might have noticed, discussions are going on about if we shoudl emerge with the other royalistic party, RPE. I would like to have your thoughts about it, so that we all can agree if we should continue the discussions or not.

2. I have replied to Immanuel Silberfel. His questions were wise and for many of them we did not have a known general oppinion of the Party. I would like to know what your answers to him would have been so that we can make our Party policy in the first post even better.

3. The last questions: Do you think that anything more is missing in the first post? If so, tell and we will discuss what the general oppinion in that particular question would be.

Thank you

Kent

 

[Bagricula]

The Bishop mulls this over before responding,

"You talk about walking a dangerous and slippery slope, Mr. Ahseed-Lentigner, when you begin justifying the ending of a life because of potential futures. If a child is born retarded or impaired, is it not certain then that they will have a life of misery? What of the elderly and senile? What sort of life do you leave them? The fact of the matter is that there is no way of predicting the potential of a human being. We are God's most marvelous creations, and to allow any human being to decide with such finality that another is not worthy of existence is a terrible crime.

You say that abortion is the only way out for many people. I say that this is a lie. Adoption is always a viable option, the only thing preventing it is many wouldbe mother's preference to have an abortion. Further if the state provided for the basic needs of all people, then none would argue that a child would have a miserable life. Is it not better to bring prosperity and happiness to our people than it is to kill our future children?

Regarding, whether an unborn child has a soul or not, I must insist emphatically that it does. Not only does it have a soul, but it is capable of thought oftentimes, and has a unique genetic makeup, never before seen on this earth.

The answer to the question of capital punishment is simple. Never release these mass murderers, these most depraved of society. And what of the cost? Many studies have shown that the cost of an execution far outweighs the cost of life imprisonment. Further, life imprisonment is far more humane and not nearly as psychologically destructive as execution.

The state cannot sanction murder in any form. To do so would be to argue that some people do not deserve life and that it is our place to take it from them. Such specious justifications are a crime against humanity and God. Further, to execute someone is to presume absolute knowledge. The Lord said, "Let he who is without sin throw the first stone." None of us are qualified. Even moreso, even if these most depraved of criminals can never return to society, their souls can still be saved through repentance. Forgiveness and love are the bedrock of Christianity.

Your policies regarding unemployment and religious education seem fully inline with ethical and moral thought. I have no qualms there.

As for the candidate for the throne, I still believe a Catholic man or woman would be preferable, but in the spirit of ecumenicalism, I would support another Christian were he or she to be of worthy character.

Regardless, I feel that the restoration of the monarchy is important, and would care to join this organization, if you would have me. I can not however promise that I will not urge the party toward a policy in line with those policies I believe in."

 

[Fireblade]

I would like to resign from my position as a member of the Centralistic Monarchistic Party of Justice. I believe that as a politician, I must follow my beliefs, and after some soul-searching I have decided to return to the party of my roots: the Libertarian Party.

Fireblade Sabaya, Chairman of the Eutopian-American Organization