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[unmerged(7924)]

What shall we do with moneys? We definetly can't have usual ducats, because then we've have a big problem giving several billions to the countries. Suggestions?

1. We could (if possible) rename so that it were named "mill $" or something. a.k.a one (or ten) ducat = 1 million dollar.

 

[Jayavarman]

Same amount of money the player should have as if they were playing the grand campaign. We could pretend ducats = "something else"
Easier to implement and easier to handle small amounts of money when playing.

 

[unmerged(7924)]

Yes, but can we give the countries that much money as they have in RL? Wery rich countries like U.S.A, Norway and Switzerland will have more money than possible.
If you have like 900.000.000.000 it won't be fair; you (Norway) can build up the best in every single province, and without problems overrun you poor neighbours (Sweden). (just an example)
And if it costs 10$ to raise an army of thousand men it would be a little weird.

 

[Jayavarman]

Of course we'll set starting incomes.

 

[unmerged(8570)]

1 ducat=1 billion $US

For example, in 1945 the US's military budget was one trillion dollars, so million is far too small.

 

[Gathenhielm]

Originally posted by Mormegil
Yes, but can we give the countries that much money as they have in RL? Wery rich countries like U.S.A, Norway and Switzerland will have more money than possible.
If you have like 900.000.000.000 it won't be fair; you (Norway) can build up the best in every single province, and without problems overrun you poor neighbours (Sweden). (just an example)
And if it costs 10$ to raise an army of thousand men it would be a little weird.

Mormegil if it wasnt for the oil I think Norway have been a little poor fishing country and it is going to be really fun to watch when the oil runs out or going to be non-profit business in 2050 or something (or maybe later. That is a good event. Oil has run out! -10 taxvalue for all provinces).

Btw Seraphim all countries doesnt waste that much money on military.

 

[Kyran]

Man, you could really buy a big cupcake with 1 trillion...

I don't think it should be how much income you get but how much goes into surplus/treasury, but then america would continuously be in debt.

 

[unmerged(8570)]

It was in WWII

BTW how can we simulate the corporate control of many countries' mines and factories? A random event called "Nationalize industries Yes/No" wouldn't solve all of our problems. Perhaps we can use a DIP slider to represent how nationalized your country's assets are.

We also ought to simulate how third world countries get raped by the IMF (argentina, for example).

 

[Jayavarman]

Originally posted by seraphim
1 ducat=1 billion $US

For example, in 1945 the US's military budget was one trillion dollars, so million is far too small.

But then there are smaller countries who have never seen a trillion dollars... let alone a billion...

 

[Jayavarman]

Originally posted by seraphim
It was in WWII

BTW how can we simulate the corporate control of many countries' mines and factories? A random event called "Nationalize industries Yes/No" wouldn't solve all of our problems. Perhaps we can use a DIP slider to represent how nationalized your country's assets are.

Free Trade/Mercantilism DP slider?

 

[unmerged(7924)]

Originally posted by Gathenhielm
Mormegil if it wasnt for the oil I think Norway have been a little poor fishing country and it is going to be really fun to watch when the oil runs out or going to be non-profit business in 2050 or something (or maybe later. That is a good event. Oil has run out! -10 taxvalue for all provinces).

Btw Seraphim all countries doesnt waste that much money on military.

I'll read about it in school, Norway's oil are far from used up. Also, we put everything in an oil fund; we spare the money because we (Norway) may need them later. Norway's oil fund houses as much money as whole of Sweden (the state, government if you know what i mean) I guess.

You're right, I still think we should use millions instead.

 

[Gathenhielm]

Originally posted by Mormegil


I'll read about it in school, Norway's oil are far from used up. Also, we put everything in an oil fund; we spare the money because we (Norway) may need them later. Norway's oil fund houses as much money as whole of Sweden (the state, government if you know what i mean) I guess.

You're right, I still think we should use millions instead.

I think your right when you say the oil is not going to run out during my lifetime. But it may come non-profitable, it is not cheepest way to get oil from the north sea. And as afaik more an more oeople demanding that Norway should use their oil money now. And dont interfer too much in the war against terror, the oil platforms are very easy targets.

 

[Kyran]

That could be a good event, Choosing weather to get involved in the war on terror more or keep out as much as possible. It would cause a probability of getting an attack of an oil platform.

 

[unmerged(7924)]

So make an event then! You are after all the maker of the WTC events. You only have to make one, and we'll fix it so that every country gets it. I'm not sure how thought, but I guess any of you event guys knows. Anyway, that belong to another thread.

Are we agreed on 1 million?

 

[Gathenhielm]

Agree.

 

[Kyran]

Agree

 

[Jayavarman]

So you want 1 ducat = 1 million?

 

[Gathenhielm]

Yes, you agree?

 

[Jayavarman]

Then 1000 infantry will cost several million dollars?

 

[unmerged(8570)]

Several million isn't that bad for a few thousand infantrymen, if you take into account the costs of moving them around. War should become much more expensive in this new age.