More provinces, more development, double manpower from base manpower (0.50 instead of 0.25 in definies).
The case for expanding Albania and Epirus (and a suggestion on Greek Culture)
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More provinces, more development, double manpower from base manpower (0.50 instead of 0.25 in definies).
I think its good as it is. Albania during this time as it takes place in the game circuits around Scanderbeg, and during his lifetime he managed to keep Albania independent. No point in starting dividing a tiny country like Albania.
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I might try to add these changes to my personal mod too, except for Epirus because I'm still not too hot on it.
And no Venetian Durrazo, but I'll take what I can get.
If states got their actual colours (as in, the most prominent colour on their coat of arms or standard in the period), 90% of the Balkans would be deep red - Ottomans would be, Albanians would be, Serbians would be, Epirus would be, Byzantium would be, Hungary would be, Athens would be... it would make for a fun map, and by fun I mean rage-inducing.
Epirus and Athens would be?
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I'm all in favor except adding new cultures that will never get accepted and would only mean another possible rebel group or -dip points for converting them.
Sry i dont mean to single you out, but this is one of the most ridiculous arguments that keep popping up in similar threads.
I basically never, ever mass convert anyone. Specially in same culture group. For Johan's (bbhn) sake youll basically only ever get separatist rebels in 2 situations: 1.) when you first conquer provinces (and obtain unavoidable separatism) and 2.) if you run your country so poorly, that you basically deserve to lose.
I mean even if we are talking about different culture group AND unaccepted, there are plenty of ways of managing that, and there are also far more beneficial things to spend you DIP points on.
And if you cant manage a province of different culture group thats unaccepted and of different religion, then basically go conquer something else that has fewer stacked penalties, until you reach a landforce limit of 20+ after which point it doesnt matter what you conquer or how often it rebels. If(once) you have correct ideas, rebels are basically a non factor.
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The Despotate of Epirus used the same banner designs as the Roman Empire, broadly speaking, given that it was technically a part of the Roman Empire even if nominally independent, and so used a variation on the double-headed eagle with red background, with the eagle usually in silver. (As a side note, the Byzantine flag currently in game is actually that of the Paleologos family specifically, and should really look more like Epirus' current flag but recoloured). Athens is more debatable; it doesn't really seem to have its own associated arms. The blue lion on white currently used in game is correctly the arms of the Acciaioli family, but often the arms of the la Roche family (the first Dukes of Athens) were also used.
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When bae thinks you're on vacation in Athens but you're actually in the middle of DamascusIf states got their actual colours (as in, the most prominent colour on their coat of arms or standard in the period), 90% of the Balkans would be deep red - Ottomans would be, Albanians would be, Serbians would be, Epirus would be, Byzantium would be, Hungary would be, Athens would be... it would make for a fun map, and by fun I mean rage-inducing.
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I never missmanage a country nor do i get rebels, i know the mechanics in and out. What i am mostly referring to is your ability to get a culture accepted. Frankly adding cultures for the sake of adding cultures is pointless. In MP games people don't take humanism ideas, the dynamics are different and also not to mention that those provinces are so poor that having a culture you will never have accepted makes them almost worthless.
Epirus and Cypriot culture? Makes no sense whatsoever.
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Albania during that time didnt exists. There were some feudal lords from modern northern Albania that Skanderbeg united in league of Lesche. But they didnt represent Albania or anything like that. There were Albanian, but also Serbian lords in that League.
Best you can use as Albania(but not really Albania) is the most northern province from that mod map...
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Albania as a state didn't exist until Scanderbeg unified the albanian clans, that was represented through league of lezhe. And of course, they did represent Albania, they liberated albanian territory and fought for a independent Albania. It was a weak state based on clans, though still a politcal unity represented as Albania with Scanderbeg as their leader.
Also, the serbian lords barley played a roll in Scanderbegs campaigns. The only somewhat significant help he got was overseas in Italy. The serbs didn't play any vital roll at all neither in support of money or troops, in fact he even fought the serbs. What makes the albanian leader so great is that he managed to keep Albania independent with minimal
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What difference does it make whether a culture is accepted? Yeah depending on case (same culture group, different culture group and other stacking penalties) youll get a smallish penalty, but its nothing drastic that would require you to switch province culture (or do other stuff to get the culture accepted). Its not like youre gonna lose it. Once you grow beyond like 20 provinces, it no longer matters whatsoever. The income or manpower lost from penalties becomes practically irrelevant. If you spend those DIP points upgrading production youll get income in your own provs anyway.
Going back to very first sentence in this reply i believe its basically just some people's perceived value of having everything accepted just for role playing sake OR OCD inspired desire to do it. Which is IMO at least not a good argument in support of the original claim (dont add more cultures because hard to accept)
(edit again sry i really dont mean to single you out, im rather just think out loud even though i quoted you)
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Skanderbeg didn't unify the clans except insofar as he was the lead general of their forces. He had no right to interfere in the domains of the other nobles. The Serbian lords also contributed in exactly the same sense the Albanian lords did (provide troops), and in some cases were more critical than some of the Albanian lords - the Crnojevićs remained faithful to Skanderbeg, unlike say Arianiti. Calling the League of Lezhe a polity, let alone an Albanian polity, is a fair stretch. I mean, I'm content for it be that way as a gameplay abstraction so that an Albanian-culture TAG can be playable from the start, but if you wanted have the strictest accuracy, Skanderbeg would just be a rebel stack.
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What? No.
Do you even try to read up on history, or is this some kind of Albanians hate Serbs thing?
Serbian lords that were members of the League were the one that fought with Skanderberg until the end and continued to fight Ottos after he died. It was some Albanian lords that were part of the league that later turned against Skanderberg. Skanderberg was even allied with Serbian despot until Ottos conquered Serbia. They fought together against Venice recapturing a lot of towns.
Back then there was no nationalistic hate between Albanians and Serbs. It was religion that mattered.
And Skanderberg himself was at least half Serbian as his mother was Serbian. All his letters were written in Serbian. He was also a member of Serbian Orthodox Church. And he was also buried in Serbian Monastery.
So to cut this short... Your argument is invalid.
Also he was de facto vassal of King of Aragorn.
Just imagine if you told Serbs that Dushan's mother was Bulgarian.
Which would make him half Bulgarian who spoke Greek for most of his life as primary language and Bulgarian with his mother while in exile from Serbia for his entire childhood XD
Which would make him half Bulgarian who spoke Greek for most of his life as primary language and Bulgarian with his mother while in exile from Serbia for his entire childhood XD
Please, it's like you dont even know that the Serbs were the ancestors of the Romans and were the first Europeans. Also, the Virgin Mary was a Serb and Jesus spent his time among Serbs before preaching in Judea. Check your Turkish privileges at the door
He was buried in Lezhe, actually. Skanderbeg did write letters in Serbian to Djuradj Brankovic, but there's hardly unsurprising as he was Serbian Despot. Skanderbeg's letters to King Ferdinand are in Latin, and he knew Ottoman Turkish as well having served in the military there; he was quite well educated.
You guys should just settle all your differences and make a South Slav state, you're basically all the same. You could call it Southslavia or something, I can see it now, it'd be a big success.
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