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Other than MUCH greater production of cavity magnatrons (and thus centimetric radar sets--a BIG, perhaps war-winning, plus) I can't argue.
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Jet engine development = promising
Jet engines + Air Ministry bureaucracy = not so promising
Jet engines + Air Ministry bureaucracy + flaky inventor + irregular financing + conflicting plans + personal rivalries + Winston sticking his oar in = the sort of administrative trainwreck best illustrated with a jet engine and some rather rickety wagons.
Sometime soon, the Air Ministry (and others) are going to have to make serious priority decisions between "stuff we can have now", "stuff we want next year" and "stuff that would be really cool in five years' time if we're all alive to see it." Judging by current performance, it will go down fighting to the last - with itself. But fighting none the less!
Jet engines + Air Ministry bureaucracy = not so promising
Jet engines + Air Ministry bureaucracy + flaky inventor + irregular financing + conflicting plans + personal rivalries + Winston sticking his oar in = the sort of administrative trainwreck best illustrated with a jet engine and some rather rickety wagons.
Sometime soon, the Air Ministry (and others) are going to have to make serious priority decisions between "stuff we can have now", "stuff we want next year" and "stuff that would be really cool in five years' time if we're all alive to see it." Judging by current performance, it will go down fighting to the last - with itself. But fighting none the less!
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You forget the part about then selling the finished product to the nasty ol' Ruskies!
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You meant giving for free as a sign of good faith, surely.
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I think the results speak for themselves. Apart from some people comparing the size of their internet plans, there is universal love for the WU. Now, if you don't mind, I have check the size of some thrust ratings....
fap fap fap fap fap fap fap
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That update is just oozing with "This is so wrong!" :rofl:
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I am the Kenneth Williams of the Butterfly Effect.
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DonnieBaseball - Certainly true on the cavity magnetron. But had the British government instead just approached Bell or GE and said "Build a load of these for cost and we'll give you the exclusive US patent" I'd imagine the results would have been similar.
merrick - The sad thing is the Air Ministry had such a system, they just didn't fund it or implement it properly.
Sir Humphrey/trekaddict - It was of course worse than that as it wasn't just the finished Nene engines it was full plans and all the machine tools (and I think even the plans for the tools were handed over!).
This explains why the Chinese copy of the Nene (which China had ironically stolen from the Soviets) had the same engineering mistakes as the original!
Davout - The world was perhaps a better place before I knew this. :shudder:
Nathan Madien - Oozing is OK as long as he tidies up after himself.
Davout - Right you are Kenneth.
So to the great surprise of no-one I've got distracted. A good half an update must be discarded as I replace it with something marginally more accurate. I can now guarantee fans of obscure corners of British aero research will not be disappointed. The rest of you must I'm afraid resign yourself to a slightly delay.
merrick - The sad thing is the Air Ministry had such a system, they just didn't fund it or implement it properly.
Sir Humphrey/trekaddict - It was of course worse than that as it wasn't just the finished Nene engines it was full plans and all the machine tools (and I think even the plans for the tools were handed over!).
This explains why the Chinese copy of the Nene (which China had ironically stolen from the Soviets) had the same engineering mistakes as the original!
Davout - The world was perhaps a better place before I knew this. :shudder:
Nathan Madien - Oozing is OK as long as he tidies up after himself.
Davout - Right you are Kenneth.
So to the great surprise of no-one I've got distracted. A good half an update must be discarded as I replace it with something marginally more accurate. I can now guarantee fans of obscure corners of British aero research will not be disappointed. The rest of you must I'm afraid resign yourself to a slightly delay.
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Hardly a case of "and now for something completely different!" for us loyal readers...
We shall endure... with much whineing and nashing of teeth!
Dury.
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Hardly a case of "and now for something completely different!" for us loyal readers...
We shall endure... with much whineing and nashing of teeth!
Dury.
Out there somewhere, a dentist is seeing El Pip's delay as an chance to make money.
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Oooh! Ooooh!
"fans of obscure corners of British aero research"
...El Pip, you're playing my song!
"fans of obscure corners of British aero research"
...El Pip, you're playing my song!
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Nathan Madien - Curses! I've been rumbled. I am indeed a agent provocateur of the international dentists union, sent to incite people to grind their teeth to dust and thus keep dentists in the lap of luxury they are accustomed to.
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This is the beautiful and frightening part of the internet: whatever your kink, there are folks out there who share it and with the web, we can find each other and revel in tech geekery.
Vann
Vann
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I can't think of anyone who posts in this AAR who isn't a fan of obscure corners of the obscure corners of aero research during the inter-War period, in the UK and elsewhere. The obscurer, the better. Play on, sir.
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RAFspeak - Obscure aero-research is a beautiful tune.
Vann the Red - A wonderful sentiment. Indeed who would have thought a meandering and easily distracted AAR like this could possibly find any readers, let alone ones prepared to tolerate erratic delays.
Nathan Madien - Big Dentistry pays very well, however much to my disappointment the dental plan is in fact terrible.
Davout - Thank you I believe I have.
Right I'm just grappling with a moral conundrum (do I go for the 'nice historic parallel but unjustifiable' option or the 'that's what they would have done but damn it I want to do the other' option) so if I could possibly ask you to post amongst yourselves till we get to the top of the next page I should be ready to update by then.
Vann the Red - A wonderful sentiment. Indeed who would have thought a meandering and easily distracted AAR like this could possibly find any readers, let alone ones prepared to tolerate erratic delays.
Nathan Madien - Big Dentistry pays very well, however much to my disappointment the dental plan is in fact terrible.
Davout - Thank you I believe I have.
Right I'm just grappling with a moral conundrum (do I go for the 'nice historic parallel but unjustifiable' option or the 'that's what they would have done but damn it I want to do the other' option) so if I could possibly ask you to post amongst yourselves till we get to the top of the next page I should be ready to update by then.
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I face that one myself far too often to be able to help, since I am compromised in that regard.
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