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Hextilda is officially spymaster? That's... worrying. I find depending on if you've got a mischievous, high intrigue character around, the spymaster role is often a death sentence. Overall, I still have an eye on Mercia. I could easily see a cascade - weakened crown from fighting Robert, Wulfrun revolts in Mercia, levies weakened further, Morcar revolts for the crown... I may be worrying too much of course, but the longer the war goes, the longer that vassals raised to long penalty goes...



Darn. I blame Geoffrey's incompetent leadership. Someone should have obviously replaced him. ;)
I hope I'm not being too transparent, and rather that you are a keen observer of my fine words...but damn...you are speaking the future whether you know it or not. :eek:

Of course, I won't say how, but...pretty good guess. ;)

Sorry that your Angevins aren't there. As I say, I would love to include them.
 

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The Bold Prince


Hereford, England - September 1114


“My Lady?” Hlothere gave question as he entered the private chamber of the Duchess.

Wulfrun sat looking out the window and did not turn to greet his bow, “I have called on you to give me a report on what you have found, Uncle.”

The master of spies stood with some curiosity, “My investigations have yet to come up with a culprit, my Lady. It remains a mystery.”

“Then you are not very good at your work, sir,” Wulfrun stood and walked to fetch a cup of ale, “This Lady…the Queen mother…she would not rest and may find the solution before you come to it.”

“I have all of my sources at the task, my Lady…” Hlothere responded, “…but we may not pry information from a soul about the death of Lord Brice.”

“And what of your wife…my aunt Heregyth?” Wulfrun looked to him sharply.

Hlothere gave a quick bow, “I assure you, my Lady…my wife…your aunt has only done what you require her to do. You had the request to write to your lady mother and so she has done so on occasion.”

“Did I request that?” Wulfrun turned back to the window, “I recall that not. She takes a chance that I did not give her and now makes me look responsible in the eyes of the realm.”

“My Lady,” Hlothere stuttered slightly, “I am loathe to contradict you, but you surely did instruct Heregyth to contact your mother. Surely you recall…it was just after Lord Brice first came to your court.”

“I remember it not,” Wulfrun waived a hand and kept her gaze to the outside, “And I like not that I am to look the guilty party that this man of the King dies in my keep…in my realm…I am to look suspect when I had no part in the deed. You told me that he died of his age, sir. We now know that he did not.”

“There is still no proof of anything untoward, my Lady,” Hlothere suggested.

Wulfrun turned briefly to him and pointed to a letter on her table, “There is. Look there.”

Hlothere moved to unfold the letter to read the contents and then returned his gaze to the Duchess with wide eyes, “Why did you not share this with me before now, my Lady?”

She looked back out the window, “I did not know if you were aware of its contents. I did not know if you shared in this deceit with my lady aunt.”

“Of course I did not!” Hlothere was certain.

She offered a slight smile, “I do know that now. While you have been investigating this crime…I, sir, have been investigating you. That you admit that Lady Heregyth has been in correspondence with my lady mother proves to me that you thought nothing illicit about their words together. This letter proves their complicity and not yours.”

Hlothere looked to the Duchess with some worry, “Does the Queen mother know of this letter?”

Wulfrun turned to him with a withering glare, “She gave it to me.”

The master of spies offered a heavy sigh but looked to her with some hope, “Still, my Lady…the letter proves nothing other than your mother and aunt conspiring to silence Lord Brice. It does not mention the method of his silence nor your efforts in it in any way.”

“As I had no effort in it…” Wulfrun turned back to look outside with an icy stare, “…I should think it does not. Yet it would not matter when the King hears these words. We would not silence his own mother.”

Hlothere dropped his head, “And she travels back to him at the now with this knowledge.”

“She does,” Wulfrun kept her stern gaze to the window in thought.

“Then we must send an emissary to the King at once to argue your case,” Hlothere was quick to suggest, “I would go myself if you should wish it.”

She held up a hand to silence him, “I do not think so. He would not care to hear it, I am afraid. I fear that the King loves me not.”

“My Lady…” Hlothere broke in, “…The King loves you in every way, I be certain. You are surely his most powerful friend…his greatest friend.”

“Hmm!” she grunted as she kept a sharp glare to her lands outside, “I believe that I have been. I have called up my force to assist in his wars when he lifts not a finger when we see rebellion in Mercia. I raise my levy only to see Hereford under attack. And this Queen…his wife…she be no Lady that I can see. She treats me rudely when she does dare set foot in this realm, which is near to never. I do not care for her.”

“Still, my Lady…” Hlothere attempted to counsel but she held up her hand again.

Wulfrun turned to him with great irritation, “This woman proposes to bring the Emperor to our side in this struggle and then goes out to declare for herself? She holds over three thousand in Pfalz against her liege and expects us to find respect and gratitude for her?”

Hlothere briefly bowed his head, “I could not speak for the Duchess of Meissen…”

“The Queen, Hlothere…” Wulfrun glared at him, “…she is THE Queen of this realm. And what does she do for it but turn her back on her husband for her own glory? It sickens me.”

“My Lady,” Hlothere stood tall with kind eyes, “It be clear that you have great affection for the King and for the realm…”

“Do I?” she asked sharply. “I care about Mercia and no other, my Lord.”

Hlothere nodded his head, “Of course.”

“You may see this man that has married my mother…he takes his men to Bourges at the now and holds sway over all of northern France. He fights on three fronts and has yet to be bested. I may find more favor from him than I would this King here.”

The master of spies offered a worried look, “My Lady, Mercia is of England…not Normandy.”

Wulfrun held her head high, “I know that well, sir. You need not remind me. But we may yet have use for this man of Normandy.”

“My Lady…” Hlothere attempted to plead with her, “…would it not be better to pay great homage to King Uhtræd and beg your case to him?”

She turned to look back out the window, “I fear it not. I do not think that he would listen with the lies his mother may tell him…and he would believe. And this woman of Meissen…I believe she poisons his soul. The King does play at sieges, but sooner or later, the man from Normandy will cross. What side would we be on when he does, my Lord Hlothere?”

Hlothere offered a heavy sigh, “You believe he might harass your lands?”

Wulfrun did not turn as she answered, “His allies already do. I would give you leave now to send word to my mother. I may have some words to say to this Lord Robert. We shall see if he be more amenable to my thoughts.”

“If that is what you wish, my Lady, I will see to it at once,” Hlothere answered with resignation.

She turned to him with an icy stare, “I did not wish for this, sir. But it is what we must do to safeguard my realm.”



* * *

Middlesex, England - October 1114


The King sat in his tent alongside the bank of the river Thames as he looked to a map in front of him. His brow was pinched and his ale untouched. The Duke of Ferrara sat next to him with a bemused smile that the King did not see.

“It is but a piece of paper, my good King,” Duke Arnolfo suggested as he sipped at his own drink.

The Duke was steady and honorable as Uhtræd had found, but he turned to Arnolfo with no smile, “This piece of paper is every bit the guide as we move forward, my Lord. These lands of France play greatly at our own tasks here in England and I would have knowledge of every move if I am able.”

Arnolfo nodded his head, “Francia is difficult, Your Grace. It has not been whole for some time now, and I fear it never to be. We must each make our own.”

Uhtræd looked back to the map, “You would not find favor with Prince Roubaud?”

“He is a fine enough Prince, as I see him,” Arnolfo sat forward, “Surely better than the French whore.”

“Which one?” Uhtræd offered a grin.

“It matters not,” he answered, “That is not your task. If your Norman Duke wishes his place, he will have to best them all, including you. I believe he may find his problems in his days ahead.”

The King gave nod of his head as he furrowed his brow, “That is no doubt. This map is a tapestry of confusion, my Lord. Even in your own lands of Italia, the people of Genoa go against the Emperor. I had hoped to have the man as an ally.”


Arnolfo stood to refresh his cup, “This would be Caesar is not worth your trouble, Your Grace. He has lost Poitou, I hear, and now the Duke of Gelre challenges him. This Duke does not even have his own lands as your good lady wife controls them. All of us within the Empire would wish this Imperial power lessened and so thanks God that someone has found the stones to do something about it.”

Uhtræd offered a heavy sigh, “Yet it does me no good.”

The Duke curled his face in question as he sat and pointed his finger to the map, “Less good is that it appears your own wife joins in this rebellion. I had thought the Duchess on your side, Your Grace.”

“She fights for Meissen and I would expect nothing less,” the King was quick to answer, “She does not lose faith with our cause but hers will always be more pressing. I would not argue and wish her well.”

Arnolfo shrugged, “I suppose the damage is already done to your Norman Duke. It was a fine gift to see this German move towards Normandy and take out many men even in his loss.”

Uhtræd turned to nod his head but was taken from his words when a page announced his brother, “The Lord Chancellor, Your Grace!”

“Brother…” Prince Eadward began before spying the Italian Duke, “…Your Grace…I did not know that you were at counsel.”

“It is fine,” the King looked up with a pensive brow, “This be my son’s brother by law, the Duke of Ferrara.”

Arnolfo smiled pleasantly with a bow of his head as Uhtræd looked to him, “My Lord Duke, this be my brother, the Chancellor to this realm. He is my rock in all ways.”

“It is my pleasure to greet you, my Lord Duke,” Eadward gave bow.

“And I you, sir,” Arnolfo stood and bowed with a flourish.

Uhtræd moved to his brother, “What news do you bring to me?”

Eadward was reticent but tried to offer a smile, “Some fine and some…not.”

“Then mayhap tell me the fine at the first, brother,” Uhtræd flashed a passing grin.

The Prince seemed nervous but again tried to find his smile, “Our work in Wales…against the Irish that sit within Glamorgan…I believe that we have found your claim there, Your Grace.”


Duke Arnolfo took his seat once more as he pulled his cup to him with a grin, “You do not stand idly by, good King Uhtræd. Allow me to give you all respect. I did not know what I would find when I traveled to your land. You might show me to be a very active King. I believe that I like it well.”

“That is well fine, good brother,” Uhtræd smiled and looked to the Duke, “We may not have chance to act upon such for some time.”

Eadward stood with apprehension, “Would you care to hear the poor news, Your Grace?”

The King turned back to him with good spirit, “If I must. What is it?”

“The Lady of Mercia…Your Grace…” Eadward was slow to say the words, “…she has gone with…Lord Robert.”

The look of shock upon the King’s face was large as he moved to pull the map from the table and threw it to the floor. The Duke of Ferrara was caused to stand and back away such was the King’s fury and Eadward did his best to keep his ground. Uhtræd found his face grow red as he fumed and looked back to his brother, “Where is our mother at the now?!”

“She is to you,” Eadward was quick in his reply. “She left Mercia in great haste, so her letter tells me. She has words for you but does not offer them to me.”

“This…” Uhtræd began to say but stopped himself as he moved to pick up the map. He found some calm and then looked to his forces once again, “This is…unexpected.”

Duke Arnolfo was unsure of the politics, so he questioned, “Why do you find such worry from this Lady?”

Eadward turned to him with certainty, “My Lord Duke…begging your apologies, but you do not know this land well. This Lady is very powerful and the loss of her force…”

“A great change of the field,” Uhtræd was quick to finish his brother’s thought. “I do not understand why she has done such a thing…but we must fight with the soldiers we have.”

“They have already fallen away from Lord Morcar’s force in Wareham, Your Grace,” Eadward answered, “She raises her men now in her favor. I do not know where she may strike.”

“How many?” Uhtræd looked to him with concern.

Eadward answered with great disappointment, “Lord Morcar loses half of his strength.”

Uhtræd moved to smooth out the map upon the table in front of him and thought. He was silent for a time but finally asked, “Do we know of Robert’s strength at the now?”

“Many thousands, Your Grace,” Eadward bowed his head, “Yet they do not cross as they continue their pursuits in the Empire.”

“And Lady Wulfrun?” Uhtræd asked as he kept his gaze to the map.

Eadward kept his head low, “She may muster over four thousand.”

“We are strong enough here to best such a force,” Duke Arnolfo suggested.

The King kept a keen eye upon his map, “But not both of our armies. This is not what I planned upon. I had need to take this man’s holds here in England while he wasted his time in France and beyond.”

“He is surely at a desperate play, Your Grace,” Eadward suggested.

“Desperate it may be,” Uhtræd kept his frown, “But worthy. I know not how he has done so, but this ploy does change things greatly.”

Arnolfo moved to pour another cup of ale, “If it be men that you require, Your Grace…I may give you some advice. There is a band out of Catalonia that makes their base near to my home in Ferrara. I know that your realm has been partial to the Saxon mercenaries over the years, but as I understand it, they are not available…great glory they have working for another. Yet these men that I know are hard warriors and have no home of their own given the Moslem scourge. I be certain that they may be had for a fair price.”

Uhtræd looked to the Duke with pained eyes, “I did not wish it to come to this…but make contact with this band, my Lord. I would not see England lost to the whims of a bitter old man and a petulant child.”

 

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Wulfrun clearly feels aggrieved. Hell hath no fury, as the saying goes.

I wonder if Adela might yet cost Uhtræd more support. I suspect, given the time, she will be known as the she-wolf of Meissen and blamed for all ills.

I note that Wulfrun's justification is effectively a rebellion not against the King, but against the King's evil adherents, and thus seems a properly mediaeval rebellion.
 

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That's not good. Not good at all.

Then again, it may be an opportunity. Smash her armies, siege her holdings, it may raise your war score (er, allow Uhtræd to demonstrate the futility of the war to his opponents) without needing to cross the channel into the teeth of a much larger army. Of course, while that's being done there may be enough time for that army to cross the channel.

I really hope Uhtræd wins this war and is able to strip lands from all the traitors. More power in the hands of the king might just prevent the civil wars in the future.
 

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And there it is. Suddenly, everything gets a whole lot dicier. For the first time in a long time, I feel a genuine fear as to what the future holds for the royal house. I certainly can see how victory is possible - smashing Wulfrun's forces and taking down Mercia. But now there will be a mercenary drain on the economy, and I do not know if it will result in a big war score, since she is a secondary target in this war.

That HRE revolt really happened at a terrible time.

And of course, there's still Morcar, looming.
 

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Oh good, we get to settle the Normandy and the Mercia question in one go. This can be only good or England in the long run, but right now it might be the death knell for this king.
But we always knew both these conflicts were coming. Fighting them together is annoying in some ways but also good as we are already ready for war. Mercia must be controlled, which means it must be boring down to size and especially kicked out of Wales and the north west of England. Normandy must be tamed and forced out of the hands of the Norman dynasty.

And since I think England will still win this war, this can only be good.
 

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Fb-fb:

Wulfrun clearly feels aggrieved. Hell hath no fury, as the saying goes.

I wonder if Adela might yet cost Uhtræd more support. I suspect, given the time, she will be known as the she-wolf of Meissen and blamed for all ills.

I note that Wulfrun's justification is effectively a rebellion not against the King, but against the King's evil adherents, and thus seems a properly mediaeval rebellion.
The she-wolf of Meissen...hmm. I will have to consider that. ;) I must admit that it was our good friend @Director that helped come up with this sub-plot/motivation for Wulfrun's betrayal. I hope that I have set down enough seeds such that it plays effectively. I wanted it to make sense and hopefully the combination of her regrets and concerns leads naturally to this moment.

That's not good. Not good at all.

Then again, it may be an opportunity. Smash her armies, siege her holdings, it may raise your war score (er, allow Uhtræd to demonstrate the futility of the war to his opponents) without needing to cross the channel into the teeth of a much larger army. Of course, while that's being done there may be enough time for that army to cross the channel.

I really hope Uhtræd wins this war and is able to strip lands from all the traitors. More power in the hands of the king might just prevent the civil wars in the future.
Cross Channel Chicken (TM) remains and now has been raised a notch. Robert does not need to cross while he has an army 4000 strong to do his work for him. I believe it to be a desperate ploy (as suggested in the update) but it makes the whole mess that much more difficult.

And there it is. Suddenly, everything gets a whole lot dicier. For the first time in a long time, I feel a genuine fear as to what the future holds for the royal house. I certainly can see how victory is possible - smashing Wulfrun's forces and taking down Mercia. But now there will be a mercenary drain on the economy, and I do not know if it will result in a big war score, since she is a secondary target in this war.

That HRE revolt really happened at a terrible time.

And of course, there's still Morcar, looming.
A lot more work without much return...yes. Now Uhtræd has a second front and gives Robert all the more time to plan the crossing he desires. I admit, I was pissed when this happened in game. I had done all I could do butter up this young Duchess and then this? Gah!

And yes, the HRE turmoil did not help in any way. I didn't expect the wife to be a huge help, but she might have thrown a few more soldiers my way.

As for Morcar...let's just say that he features prominently in the next few updates. ;)

Oh good, we get to settle the Normandy and the Mercia question in one go. This can be only good or England in the long run, but right now it might be the death knell for this king.
But we always knew both these conflicts were coming. Fighting them together is annoying in some ways but also good as we are already ready for war. Mercia must be controlled, which means it must be boring down to size and especially kicked out of Wales and the north west of England. Normandy must be tamed and forced out of the hands of the Norman dynasty.

And since I think England will still win this war, this can only be good.
The death knell of this King would not settle this issue, I would think. And the defensive war we are fighting suggests we won't be taking any great spoils from it. Beat Robert. That's the goal. While historically, winning against him (and her) might mean stripping many things, that's not quite how the game works. All of that it to say, you might be disappointed in how it all plays out. I won't say how just yet, but I can say it won't be glorious. Exciting in the moment, perhaps, but in the end...a bitter pill...for all parties. Wait for it.


To all - Three posts in three days. I did not plan to do this but all of these scenes worked so closely with each other, I really didn't want to make too much separation between them. In fact, these last two parts were meant to be updates of their own before I looked at it this morning. I will wait to post the next until Sunday and it is a big one (shout out to @JabberJock14 - they say steal from the best, so I did. ;)) This last series and what follows is one of the reasons that I love writing for CKII so much. How to explain such crazy things? Sit back, think, plot and then write. I've been doing a lot of it lately and really wanted it out there. I'll be back to an every other day update speed after this but this series was just too rich (really starting with Skuli's death.) I could not help myself to get it out there. And thankfully, you good folks are out there to read it just as eagerly. Thank you for that and your excellent comments! :)
 
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If or when you win, you imprison the rebels. When that happens, you are entitled to take away one title from each beaten enemy. Choose wisely, and you might just erode the main threats to the throne!
 

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There is something of an issue with this game and vassal balance. In historical reality, the chances of a large and powerful land owner repeatedly rebelling against his king and failing would be met with swift retribution. Since the whole family in this case is in on it and has been for decades, there's no way the Normans would have been allowed to stay in control of Normandy at the end of this war. Much like the OTL 1066 invasion, the conquerors didn't just leave the recently conquered land alone with its original masters. They bought off some, removed the rest and installed hundreds of castles, Norman lords and soldiers all over the realm to keep the peace. Alas the game cannot really represent this very well but at this point, doing anything else to Normandy if I was the king of England just seems foolish. And I'm sure many on the council will shout at the king for half-halfheartedly doing whatever he decides to do to them at the end.

As for Mercia, it makes sense that the rest of England treads carefully around it. Yes, the duchess has openly attacked the king and that's bad but Mercia itself is the wall holding back greater and tighter centralisation from the Crown and keeping power (such that it is) with the feudal lords. And every smart vassal knows that. So the king might find surprisingly few allies when it comes to dismantling Mercia to manageable levels, and probably many arguing against imprisoning the very eligible and marriageable duchess herself. When I describe what the king should do, it's more along the lines of 'this is what a strong and smart king would do if faced with this sort of thing in this time period and assuming he won the wars against him'. But since CKII loves crafting fallible pieces of humanity for us to write about, we get to bemoan their lack of foresight and theorise about what they will do instead, instead.

So what I think the king will actually end up doing is slapping the duchess on the wrist (if he and she are still alive by the end of the war) and imprisoning whomever he can in Normandy. It won't be enough and I suspect that Eadward will come up with some diplomatic effect to tie the two sides of the English Channel closer together (marriage contract?) but ultimately not much will have changed, aside from a few years and lots of money and manpower wasted. Everyone will be unhappy, nothing will have been permanently fixed and in the mean time the HRE and France will continue to get more chaotic. But because I cant see anyone allowing Mercia to fall and the unmarried duchess being the most valuable prize in England, and because the game makes it hard to really end Normandy as a threat forever, this is how I imagine the war turning out.
 

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If or when you win, you imprison the rebels. When that happens, you are entitled to take away one title from each beaten enemy. Choose wisely, and you might just erode the main threats to the throne!
It may not work out quite like that as we will see, but that would be very nice indeed.

There is something of an issue with this game and vassal balance. In historical reality, the chances of a large and powerful land owner repeatedly rebelling against his king and failing would be met with swift retribution. Since the whole family in this case is in on it and has been for decades, there's no way the Normans would have been allowed to stay in control of Normandy at the end of this war. Much like the OTL 1066 invasion, the conquerors didn't just leave the recently conquered land alone with its original masters. They bought off some, removed the rest and installed hundreds of castles, Norman lords and soldiers all over the realm to keep the peace. Alas the game cannot really represent this very well but at this point, doing anything else to Normandy if I was the king of England just seems foolish. And I'm sure many on the council will shout at the king for half-halfheartedly doing whatever he decides to do to them at the end.

As for Mercia, it makes sense that the rest of England treads carefully around it. Yes, the duchess has openly attacked the king and that's bad but Mercia itself is the wall holding back greater and tighter centralisation from the Crown and keeping power (such that it is) with the feudal lords. And every smart vassal knows that. So the king might find surprisingly few allies when it comes to dismantling Mercia to manageable levels, and probably many arguing against imprisoning the very eligible and marriageable duchess herself. When I describe what the king should do, it's more along the lines of 'this is what a strong and smart king would do if faced with this sort of thing in this time period and assuming he won the wars against him'. But since CKII loves crafting fallible pieces of humanity for us to write about, we get to bemoan their lack of foresight and theorise about what they will do instead, instead.

So what I think the king will actually end up doing is slapping the duchess on the wrist (if he and she are still alive by the end of the war) and imprisoning whomever he can in Normandy. It won't be enough and I suspect that Eadward will come up with some diplomatic effect to tie the two sides of the English Channel closer together (marriage contract?) but ultimately not much will have changed, aside from a few years and lots of money and manpower wasted. Everyone will be unhappy, nothing will have been permanently fixed and in the mean time the HRE and France will continue to get more chaotic. But because I cant see anyone allowing Mercia to fall and the unmarried duchess being the most valuable prize in England, and because the game makes it hard to really end Normandy as a threat forever, this is how I imagine the war turning out.
I completely agree on both counts vis-a-vis RL vs this time line. CK is good about meddling a good many things, but it does lack in some other areas. However, some of this may also be an issue of playing vanilla vs. more recent DLCs. Someday I may get around to seeing that for myself. ;)

Your outlook for the war looks solid. I cannot say if that is exactly how it goes down, but it makes perfect sense of the game (and for this player of it.)


To all - Quiet weekend around here, it seems. It's not often I find the old girl back on page two. But no matter, as promised the next scene will follow and it was a fun but difficult one to write. When I mentioned before that I owe some debt to @JabberJock14 I was not kidding. When I was writing this, I happened to be reading a portion of his work at the time and part of the influence can likely be seen if you have read his work (which, if you are not, you should.) I might also mention, it deviates a little in how I have written this type of scene before. I was playing around with trying to add a bit more color to it. I'll let you good folks tell me if it works or not. As always, your comments remain paramount. Thank you for each and every one! :)
 

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The Bold Prince


Dorset, England - January 1115


The train of soldiers marched slowly over a frosty ground as the men did all they could to keep out the cold. At least the marching kept them warm enough but the wind did them all no service. The King marched in front of all on a tall destrier and was joined to his sides by the Duke of Ferrara and the commander of the Catalan Band, Deodat.

“Condottiere?” Uhtræd asked him, “Do you find winters this harsh in Italia?”

In a heavy accent, he responded in English, “You had best ask your Duke here, as I see little time in Italia.”

Arnolfo laughed, “Do you not enjoy our beautiful shores and fine hills, sir?”

Deodat looked ahead with a grin, “I have but one home and that is the field of battle. I may one day enjoy the pleasures of our great sea to the south, but it will be because I fought for it and won.”

“My aunt, the Queen mother of Castile, would enjoy that very much, sir.” Uhtræd offered a smile. “She may wish you back there at the now to throw these heathens from that land.”

“I have spied this Queen Christina,” Deodat answered him, “She is a beautiful lady. But the Moslems are too many. My band would not be enough.”

“And besides,” Arnolfo laughed, “I believe you take well to our fine ladies of Ferrara.”

“The field of battle is my lady,” the Condottiere moved a hand to the pommel of his sword with a smile, “But my men like them well enough.”

Uhtræd gave nod with a laugh, “We are grateful to have you, sir. You travel in quick time.”

The mercenary kept his gaze ahead, “Deodat would be in your service, good King. Your pay is fine and the challenge of your realm even better. My men salivate.”

“They may not feel so lusty once they greet what is before them,” The King looked over to him.

Deodat smiled as he looked back, “They may love it even more, good King. I hear this army is led by a young woman. I believe they would all very much like to have her.”

Uhtræd gave him a sharp eye, “They would not. She is a respectable woman and a fine Lady of our realm.”

“She is also a traitor, is she not?” Arnolfo questioned.

The King stared ahead, “Lady Wulfrun is…misguided. She is young and at the mercy of her womanly habits. She may have a lack of trust as she believes the same from me. We march to her to show our strength and hope that she will cease her tantrum.”

“So she does not lead it herself?” Deodat asked with a frown. “That does make me sad. I had hoped to see a fierce woman as warrior.”

“She is too young and no martial woman, sir,” Uhtræd answered him, “But she remains important to the realm. I would not see her harmed.”

As they spoke, the King’s commander Alexander moved to the front with speed and pulled his mount alongside, “Your Grace…I bring word from Wareham. The Lady of Mercia’s force has moved south quickly and engages Lord Morcar’s army as we speak. They are greatly outnumbered.”


Uhtræd gave nod in his thanks and then spoke to them all, “Then we are not to Hereford, sirs. We move to assist the Duke. Give the order for a quick march for we would see this Lady bested and gone from the field.”

As Alexander moved to give the orders, King Uhtræd spurred on his mount and swiftly paced ahead of the marching army. Time was now of the essence.


* * *


It had been days of back and forth with Morcar not committing to battle and instead moving his army away from the field every time he could. They had found some brief action, but the Duke was unwilling to place his soldiers in harm’s way against a numerically superior force. He stood by an early morning fire and looked into the flames, feeling some shame at his actions but certain that he was right.

“My Lord Duke,” Beorhtmaer approached him, “How fare you this morrow?”

Morcar kicked the dirt before the fire in some anger, “I fare not well as we are soon to be bested by my cousin. I think I like it not.”

“Her force approaches once more,” the Prince stepped closer, “I fear that we may not fall away this time. We must give battle or perish completely.”

“We will perish nonetheless,” Morcar looked to the fire with bitterness.

Beorhtmaer tried to be diplomatic, “It is not the end, my Lord. You have said that the King would be to us soon. His numbers would help us greatly and then we would find victory against this force.”

“If he reaches us before they do,” Morcar spit into the flames.

A horn blew in the distance and they both knew what that meant. The Mercian army was on them once again and there was nowhere else to run. Morcar looked to the horizon as the sun began to climb over a hill and then looked to the Prince, “Ready the men. We fight or we die. We may do both before the day is through.”

The Prince moved quickly to instruct the men and found Lord Harold readying himself in great haste.

“We would finally find our fight,” Harold announced as he watched the Prince approach him.

Beorhtmaer gave a grave nod, “We would.”

“Good.”

“You are to the left, my Lord,” Beorhtmaer suggested, “I wish you Godspeed.”

Harold gave a curt nod as he placed his helm upon his head and then grasped at the Prince’s shoulder, “I would see you when it is done.”

The camp became frenzied as the Saxons moved to line up with shield men protecting the archers. Across the field, the Mercian force did the same. Their shields were quick to march forth and build a wall as they slowly moved forward one pace at a time. Mercian archers let off a volley that was returned as Morcar stood behind his line and ordered a second.

“Do not let up!” he shouted.

The Mercian army saw that they outnumbered the force before them and soon moved to push forward with more strength to overtake them. Morcar watched it happen and called out, “Send me Lord Harold and Prince Beorhtmaer! They would bring their force to me!”

Beorhtmaer was the first to find the Duke, “My men are here, my Lord. We would hold fast!”

“No,” Morcar was quick to answer, “We would move forward. I would not let them take the advantage. Put your men to the front and give me a bulwark!”

The Prince questioned the order in his mind but wasted no time to order it himself, “Shield Wall! To me!!”

His Saxon shields moved to the Prince and they stepped forward onto the field and stood strong, each building one on top of the other. With precision, they began a steady march forward. Spears moved into line behind them and all at once, the Mercians rushed forward in an attempt to break their line. It held, but barely.

Beorhtmaer stood behind a shield and stabbed as best he could at any man that came at him, but eventually the line began to back away.

“Hold!!!” he shouted, trying to keep the men from breaking.

But they began to melt away as Mercian swords and spears pierced the line and pushed them far back from their position. The Prince looked behind him and saw that Duke Morcar was also in the midst of the crush, but their combined might was not enough to stop this advance. A Mercian spear moved through the shields and glanced at the Princes head. He held up a hand to see the blood and then looked around. They were not in a winnable position.

“Fall back!!!” he ordered.

Far behind him, the Duke heard the order as he watched the men back away and yelled out himself, “No! Advance!! Move forward!!!”

There was confusion among the men and the Mercians took full advantage. At once, their horse moved to the field to wipe away this wall and it was only by the grace of Lord Harold that they were met with great opposition. The Duke moved his men to the field and kept them occupied as Beorhtmaer’s men pushed as best they could. But it was not enough. The young Prince stumbled over dead men as his line continued to retreat and even with the Lord Marshal ordering an advance, there was little hope of success.

And then, a rumble was heard in the distance. Both armies felt it on the ground as they continued to fight, but many found chance to look. Across the hill, there came a strong force of horse and men some five thousand strong and they swept onto the field with great fury.


At once, Beorhtmaer felt many fresh men move into the crush and pull their shields in tight. With a steady call, they built their force and began a push back against the Mercian army. He was surprised when a familiar voice called out to him, “Hold fast, brother!!”

The King of England had left his horse and stood amongst the shield wall, holding strong and smiling at his brother. With such action, the Mercians began to fall away. The temper of battle had changed dramatically and they could no longer hold out. Uhtræd called out for all to keep tight as they moved forward but eventually, the Mercian army was fleeing the field and he allowed some few men to follow.

The Battle of Wareham was won.


It was not but an hour later when Beorhtmaer looked up from his tent and saw his brother approaching. He moved to stand and give a bow, but Uhtræd raised a hand.

“That is a nasty cut…you should care for it.”

The Prince offered a smile as he pulled a hand to his head, “You care for me in all ways, Your Grace. Your timing is impeccable.”

Uhtræd dropped to sit on the ground with a thud and a heavy sigh, “A hard day, brother. But a day won.”

“It would not have been without you,” Beorhtmaer looked to him with thanks as he too sat once more.

The King reached out to grasp his brother’s shoulder, “I would not see you harmed, sir. I would see you safe.”

“As you would the realm, brother,” Beorhtmaer gave nod of his head as he wiped away more sweat, “I know it true.”
 

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However, some of this may also be an issue of playing vanilla vs. more recent DLCs. Someday I may get around to seeing that for myself. ;)

Hmm...I don't think that it's any easier with all the DLC attached but I could be wrong. So, here's how it works at the moment if you have everything installed. It's really hard to revoke land from anyone who's the same religion as you for no reason. If they do rebel and you win and you have a law in place which allows you to, you can take one of their titles away for free (which depending on who it is might mean removing a single county or a portion or a complete duchy title). But then you cannot take away another without incurring opinion penalties as normal. So rebellions tend to come in threes or fours throughout a character's reign.

Conclave made this a bit harder. See, now you must have absolute council authority or at the very least, control over title revocations and also the specific law in place that allows vassal title revocation or the law that allows free revocation of titles from people not of your religion (cant have both at the same time).

The fact that this is an issue that has been repeatedly looked at and not made to mirror historical reality makes me think Paradox might have tried it that way and found it to be totally game-breaking. But who knows?

The King stared ahead, “Lady Wulfrun is…misguided. She is young and at the mercy of her womanly habits. She may have a lack of trust as she believes the same from me. We march to her to show our strength and hope that she will cease her tantrum.”

Already thinking ahead perhaps or just wishful thinking? Certainly he and the rest of the lords of the realm need to find some reason for her to stay out of prison after she loses but I didn't think they would start this early. I wonder if they'll luck out and someone on her own time will try and murder her, so they can claim it was all their fault.
 

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I think Uhtræd is confused by Wulfrun's actions, which is not unreasonable.

I do wonder about Morcar.
 

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An absolutely smashing victory! Though I think it's just a flesh wound. Rub a little dirt on it, that's all! :p
 

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Looking at the big picture, it appears as though Mercia's entry into the war may have been a blessing in disguise -- after all, once Wulfrun's armies are smashed, the English can easily rack up the war score by sieging down Mercian castles without having to touch Norman lands until they're good and ready.

That said, I think at this point, any hope of a quick and "painless" victory for either side has fallen away pretty conclusively. Looks like they'll have to settle in for the long haul...
 

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Hmm...I don't think that it's any easier with all the DLC attached but I could be wrong. So, here's how it works at the moment if you have everything installed. It's really hard to revoke land from anyone who's the same religion as you for no reason. If they do rebel and you win and you have a law in place which allows you to, you can take one of their titles away for free (which depending on who it is might mean removing a single county or a portion or a complete duchy title). But then you cannot take away another without incurring opinion penalties as normal. So rebellions tend to come in threes or fours throughout a character's reign.

Conclave made this a bit harder. See, now you must have absolute council authority or at the very least, control over title revocations and also the specific law in place that allows vassal title revocation or the law that allows free revocation of titles from people not of your religion (cant have both at the same time).

The fact that this is an issue that has been repeatedly looked at and not made to mirror historical reality makes me think Paradox might have tried it that way and found it to be totally game-breaking. But who knows?



Already thinking ahead perhaps or just wishful thinking? Certainly he and the rest of the lords of the realm need to find some reason for her to stay out of prison after she loses but I didn't think they would start this early. I wonder if they'll luck out and someone on her own time will try and murder her, so they can claim it was all their fault.
Thanks for the heads up on the DLCs. I do want to play them at some point. And yes...not a bad thought on Uhtræd's consideration on the Lady of Mercia. As stated...she is important.

I think Uhtræd is confused by Wulfrun's actions, which is not unreasonable.

I do wonder about Morcar.
Yes, he is confused. Now...are you sure that is the King or Morcar? :D

I think one of them knows better what to do next, but we shall have to wait and see who that may be. ;)

An absolutely smashing victory! Though I think it's just a flesh wound. Rub a little dirt on it, that's all! :p
It was amazing in-game and something I was very excited about, both in the playing and the writing. Guess I hoped more would say something more about it...both the battle and my writing of it. It was! A smashing victory!

I think the Prince will be fine. ;)

Looking at the big picture, it appears as though Mercia's entry into the war may have been a blessing in disguise -- after all, once Wulfrun's armies are smashed, the English can easily rack up the war score by sieging down Mercian castles without having to touch Norman lands until they're good and ready.

That said, I think at this point, any hope of a quick and "painless" victory for either side has fallen away pretty conclusively. Looks like they'll have to settle in for the long haul...
I would not call Mercia's entry a blessing. It was a slap in the face. And sieges suck and do not help the war score that greatly. Big battles mean more. The next update speaks more to this, but...there is a change coming soon. I could siege keeps in England all day, but what all may wish (in the story) is an end to the war. What does it mean for the characters? ;)
 

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Honored to have inspired you in this chapter! I thought it well done. I didn't think there was any way the reinforcements would be late, but you wrote in a way where it did make me doubt that thought until the end. But a victory, and a surprisingly smashing one at that. (It appears the armies of Mercia's struggles against the rebels were not a one-off.)

I also notice there's yet another king of the Franks. That realm is a mess.

On the question of whether it's possible to strip more than one territory, I had always thought it just one per rebellion. But in the last rebellion I faced, I was able to take both of the vassal's counties, much to my surprise with absolutely no tyranny penalty. It was a rebellion after a failed arrest (for trying refusing to leave a plot to kill a character), so I don't know if it was due to that. It was said that since the vassal was a traitor, they would not object, in both cases. I do have Conclave.
 

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Honored to have inspired you in this chapter! I thought it well done. I didn't think there was any way the reinforcements would be late, but you wrote in a way where it did make me doubt that thought until the end. But a victory, and a surprisingly smashing one at that. (It appears the armies of Mercia's struggles against the rebels were not a one-off.)

I also notice there's yet another king of the Franks. That realm is a mess.

On the question of whether it's possible to strip more than one territory, I had always thought it just one per rebellion. But in the last rebellion I faced, I was able to take both of the vassal's counties, much to my surprise with absolutely no tyranny penalty. It was a rebellion after a failed arrest (for trying refusing to leave a plot to kill a character), so I don't know if it was due to that. It was said that since the vassal was a traitor, they would not object, in both cases. I do have Conclave.
I cannot speak to how DLCs do the thing, but I can say again that the result of this war is...undesired. And quite the eagle eye there, Jabber. Good on ye and I'll speak to that in the next update.

As for the inspiration, it was actually two fold. Both were part of your campaign in Rouen. One was that we have so many bits of battle that occur at times which should never happen. There was a campaign season for a reason. But if we must make point of it due to the game, it should be cold. Minor and briefly mentioned, but still. And of course, the other was the depth of the battle. I don't write them often and I found yours truly engaging. Yes, they both involved a last minute assistance (and victory) but it was really the depth of the tactics that I enjoyed and tried to emulate if I could. It is not my strong suit, as I say often, but I wanted to try and place the reader within the battle as best I could. At least better than I may have done in the past. I applaud your work and so many others that are able to do such a thing. This one was a big one so I thought it deserved such treatment. Thanks for seeing it. :)
 

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Yes, the 'Tratior' thing is needed to incur no penalty for taking away land from your failed rebel. However, in my experience (which I say again is limited to four games with limited DLC and one game with everything) the traitor thing goes away when you use it once. If the vassal has something else however that makes you free to take land (like religious differences) I guess you can take everything. But for the traitor thing to stay up? I don't think I've sen that before. It makes sense in game why vassals, though loyal and want to see the traitor punished, don't want the monarch to steal all their land either. But if what you say is true, then paradox has had the system we just asked for in place all along.

Or...this might be a bug in one or both of our things.
 

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Yes, the 'Tratior' thing is needed to incur no penalty for taking away land from your failed rebel. However, in my experience (which I say again is limited to four games with limited DLC and one game with everything) the traitor thing goes away when you use it once. If the vassal has something else however that makes you free to take land (like religious differences) I guess you can take everything. But for the traitor thing to stay up? I don't think I've sen that before. It makes sense in game why vassals, though loyal and want to see the traitor punished, don't want the monarch to steal all their land either. But if what you say is true, then paradox has had the system we just asked for in place all along.

Or...this might be a bug in one or both of our things.
As I don't have it as yet and it does not play into this...how about the battle I just wrote about? ;) Can't do much about the game already played, but I can with the story that I am writing. :)