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It'd be good to know if it's working, I was struggling a lot as Byzantium, but now I'm doing okay in 1472 - driving the Ottomans out of Europe, soon restoring it to its full glory!
 

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Great, thanks! Kaffa is the only province I've got left to conquer to get the achievement then :)

Lucky you! I got Kaffa but I am missing Anatolia. And my lands are sowed with discontents, there are revolts everywhere and I fear for my life with every step I take in this kingdom of ruins and death that I built. Long way to go, it's quite a change from Eu3 :)

How are you finding the adaption process to the differences? I love it tbh, love the new challenges!
 

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For anyone still reading this: It is SO important that you occupy Epirus and Albania before the Ottomans can change the religion into Sunni, which is what they attempt to do for both those regions. The other reasons you can leave to the patriots, just not those two.

Edit: Another tip - so that you don't get owned by Europe while you conquer Anatolia: In your first war against the Ottomans there will be Bulgarian Patriot rebels, do NOT attack any of their provinces (Sofia, Tarnovo, Burgas, Silistria) let them take these provinces and form Bulgaria. Once you are done with the Ottomans vassilize Bulgaria, as Bulgaria will build a buffer zone between you and Poland+Hungary. Ignore Serbia

I made the big mistake of waiting for patriots to take over all the regions (which is great due to the free provinces you get) - however the Sunni rebels really screwed me over in the long run, since I was unable to convert the provinces that early on. If you get them early, you will keep at 100% religious unity and conquer Europe and Anatolia alike.

In my second attempt the Georgian provinces defected to me, so I got a huge bunch of overextension which I couldn't get rid of due to the constant revolts in the region and my war with the Ottomans. If any of my provinces would've had a different religion I would've been done for. I used the georgian foothold to conquer my way into the Ottoman territory basically. Really cool so far :)


--- Slightly slower -- i.e. harder, you can't just stomp everyone anymore and just push a few sliders to get full stability back. It's been balanced a lot more, so the cookie cutter stuff doesn't work. I really like it, but I have yet to attempt to travel the path of The Three Mountains ^^
 
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Valei, or anyone else - did you get the Steam Achievement? It seems like it's bugged. I am still conquering and coring more provinces, but I have all the necessary ones from what I know. Bulgaria / Balkans aren't needed right? I took back all Byzantian cores + Kaffa ... and used all the events yet no achievement.

On a sidenote ... I agree with Naval, I disagree with Quality and Religious. (Religious later one, not as a 3rd choice - I would take it whenever you plan to westernize, but I find I am at a better position without Westernization) - The early morale boost from Defensive just tops any other military idea. And I take Diplomatic for faster expansion at less cost, instead of Religious. What year are you in? Because I have expanded a lot, bordering Persia and Moscow as only big enemies.

Also there is a really good youtube video on how to beat the Ottomans, rushing galleys with loans, the Ottomans stand no chance, after the Ottomans expand into Crimea and then into the Mamluks. Whilst simultaneously (during peace treaties) expanding into Italy, as it is too far away from all the other western nations for the expansion penalty to cause them to declare wars on you or join coalitions. I'm expanding into Italy slowly though, the Middle East is the main focus, as you have strong enemies there that have to be kept at bay. I will probably get religious as a 4th Idea, just to keep up with my expansion. I really like the Byzantine ideas, basically if you play it right, the only revolting countries will be those that you didn't convert yet to Orthodox.

Also I used to convert every single culture in my first few games of EU4, now I do not convert anything anymore, unless they cost nothing - like Albania. I found that you do need the diplomatic power reserve for getting rid of war exhaustion if you expand too keenly, especially needed at the start before you get a strong army and a foothold. On hindsight, I could've used the diplo power to convert culture, and thus gain a natural disadvantage in diplo technology to westernize. I am not planning on westernizing, and I wanted to keep up with diplo to keep the strongest navy. Having the strongest navy will make the game for you. It's the only way you can stop Spain from invading you come 1550-1600.


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Sir Rogers
 
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Aside from the Themes provinces you also need the provinces with the following IDs:

142-148, 150, 159, 163, 164, 285, 320, 321, 1764, 1773, 1765, 1853

In words:

Corfu, Albania, Epirus (file says Janina), Morea, Athens, Larissa (file says Salonica), Tarnovo (file says Bulgaria), Silistria, Crete, Naxos, Kaffa, Rhodes, Cyprus, Burgas, Sofia (file says Nis), Achaea, Monastir (file says Kozani)

Basically Bulgaria, Albania and all the Greek stuff.

Thank you so much. I guess the problem is that I still got Bulgaria as a vassal, time to annex :)

Currently in 1625, I have taken Roma, I'm in the process of coring and then converting. The Pentarchy will be restored under my reign!

I cannot wait to see what happens :)

Edit: Actually I'm thinking of westernizing, it got bugged in my other games, but I got the required lack of technology, and the stability. I think it could work out well!

Edit2: I can confirm I got the achievement. New tip: DONT ever westernize as Byzantium, really ... it just ruined my game. Well I could still play but it's no fun, rebels everywhere, administrative power going up way to slow. By the time I'm done westernizing I will have spent a hundred years doing it. Just a tip for everyone, I guess it'll be worth it for cultures that have more than a 20% penalty on technology.
 
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