The Balkans

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I will try to get as much info on those coutries (Serbia&montenigro,croatia,albania,macedonia).
I ll store it here cause it really bores me goging threw all these
enormus topics.I ll get leaders and ministers and give ideas for events cause i am too lazy to figure out how do they work (the notepad).
Now :

-Why do i see on that first screenshot of the mod that there is
a montenigro state?We are still one state.Theres hsould be a event that makes it delcare idnependance if EU or USA support it.
EU first gets the event to support their independance and if they do monenigro is 80% EU 20 % USA,but if it refuses USA can do the same.Also it will make Serbia more going to the opposing side for 20%.

-Then althouth it hurts me as a Serb i think Prisitina province(Kosovo)should be a country that is a puppet of (or their territory)some EU nations or USA.It should be a teritorial claim of Serbia and Albania.

-Then Serbia should have teritorial claims (Sarajevo,Banja Luka)on Bosnia that should be a puppet of USA or EU.Croatia should have teritorial claim on Mostar.Bosnia should have territorial claims on Novi pasar but because the province doesnt borders with Bosnia it should be on Kraljevo.

-Then there should be Serbian teritrial claims on
Osijek and Split.Monenigro(if it exists)should have teritorial claims on Dubrovnik.If there is no montenigro then serbia should have teritorial clamis on it.

-Croatia should be 60% for EU 40% For USA
-Bosnia EU50% - USA50%
-Serbia 20%China(or Arabian alliance) 40% USA 40% EU
-Macedonia 10% China 60% USA 30 % EU
-Albania 10 % Arabian 80% USA 10% EU
-Kosovo 60% USA 40 % EU

I saw propaganda posters and they suck so thats the first thing I will work on.

 

[Buke]

Thanks for the support.

The screenshot we have right now is an early one with Montenegro as a revolter but I had to use that tag for something else so now Serbia and Montenegro are one nation.

Your probably right on Kosovo but right now I have very few tags for nations in game so that probably will not happen that way.

Also thanks for the territorial claims info.

 

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Edit: This was written before Buke's post.

Originally posted by Nidza
I will try to get as much info on those coutries (Serbia&montenigro,croatia,albania,macedonia).
I ll store it here cause it really bores me goging threw all these
enormus topics.I ll get leaders and ministers and give ideas for events cause i am too lazy to figure out how do they work (the notepad).

Ok..I guess you can post it here and someone else (like me) can go post it in the appropiate threads. It would be easiest to keep things organized if they were posted in the correct threads, but if it is difficult then I will do it for you.

Originally posted by Nidza
-Why do i see on that first screenshot of the mod that there is
a montenigro state?We are still one state.Theres hsould be a event that makes it delcare idnependance if EU or USA support it.
EU first gets the event to support their independance and if they do monenigro is 80% EU 20 % USA,but if it refuses USA can do the same.Also it will make Serbia more going to the opposing side for 20%.

Originally the mod was going to start a few years in the future and it was predicted that it would be likely that the two countries would seperate. The starting date has been moved back to 2003 so that has been removed but the screenshot not updated.

We are desperately short of countries and many countries will not exist, so any events that require another country will require that another starting country be deleted. So I don't want to create any more countries than we have to.

Originally posted by Nidza
-Then althouth it hurts me as a Serb i think Prisitina province(Kosovo)should be a country that is a puppet of (or their territory)some EU nations or USA.It should be a teritorial claim of Serbia and Albania.

This would require another country tag and I think having Ethiopia exist is more important than Kosovo being its own country.

Originally posted by Nidza
-Then Serbia should have teritorial claims (Sarajevo,Banja Luka)on Bosnia that should be a puppet of USA or EU.Croatia should have teritorial claim on Mostar.Bosnia should have territorial claims on Novi pasar but because the province doesnt borders with Bosnia it should be on Kraljevo.

-Then there should be Serbian teritrial claims on
Osijek and Split.Monenigro(if it exists)should have teritorial claims on Dubrovnik.If there is no montenigro then serbia should have teritorial clamis on it.

We'll try to take that into consideration when we are doing territorial claims.

Originally posted by Nidza
-Croatia should be 60% for EU 40% For USA
-Bosnia EU50% - USA50%
-Serbia 20%China(or Arabian alliance) 40% USA 40% EU
-Macedonia 10% China 60% USA 30 % EU
-Albania 10 % Arabian 80% USA 10% EU
-Kosovo 60% USA 40 % EU

Alright, thanks.

Originally posted by Nidza
I saw propaganda posters and they suck so thats the first thing I will work on.

Alright, thanks again.

 

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Originally posted by Nidza
I saw propaganda posters and they suck so thats the first thing I will work on.

Those were the best i could find, oh well.

If you send me the leaders or post here i could put them into code.

 

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wow i cant believe i actually agree with the serb on pretty much everything he said. there are some more things i believe that should be added though. first off as far as macedonia goes every country in the region has territorial claims on it albanians (not necessarily albania) claims pretty much the western half of macedonia, the serbs claim all of it as do the greeks and the bulgarians as well. then as far as montenegro goes there are albanians in southern montenegro and there is always the fear that they will rebel(although they are a small minority, they predominate in ulqin, parts of bar, the malesia, tuzi, and parts of plav gusinje and rozaj), so i dont know if u want to make that a territorial claim. in macedonia albanians are the majority in tetova, gostivar, debar, kicevo, struga with large minorities in skoplje, and kumanova. then there is kosova as well. then the greeks have always claimed southern albania. and then some nut job albanians want to annex epirus (or chameria as it is in albanian) from greece, but there are very few albanians left there so i dont know how that works. but i think being macedonia and trying to survive all those countries around it would be fun.

 

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pozdrav,
Kosovo (Pristina) should be part of Serbia and Montenegro (resolution 1244). Infrastructure and IC should be there very low. Also there shouldn't be any events that will make montenegro separate state, because i am sure that we will stay togheter for next 100 years
and ofcourse kosovo can't be, and it is not independent state

 

[Gathenhielm]

Originally posted by Sljam

and ofcourse kosovo can't be, and it is not independent state

I think his point was that Kosovo is controlled by NATO troops, and there for not directly under the command of Serbia-Montenegro, but still a part of it.

 

[Gathenhielm]

Re: Re: The Balkans

Originally posted by Lunar
Edit: This was written before Buke's post.



Ok..I guess you can post it here and someone else (like me) can go post it in the appropiate threads. It would be easiest to keep things organized if they were posted in the correct threads, but if it is difficult then I will do it for you.

I dont think there are a thread for how much they support the three alliances, maybe it would be good to start one.

 

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Meh, they can go in general comments for now. If a lot of information comes in (or if I anticipate a lot of information), then I'll make that thread.

 

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Re: Re: Re: The Balkans

Originally posted by Gathenhielm
I dont think there are a thread for how much they support the three alliances, maybe it would be good to start one.

Hmm, I'm not sure if that would be useful YET, but it's a good suggestion for the future.

 

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i've got an idea about how the kosova situation could be worked out. It could originally be administered as an area under U.S. control, then someone like seslj or milosevic take control over serbia-montenegro again and invade it demanding revenge against the USA for the NATO bombing thus driving the US forces out because the US is too busy with iraq and others. this would in turn make albania and serbia declare war on each other and would then start an all new balkan war. tell me what u guys think.

 

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i've got an idea about how the kosova situation could be worked out. It could originally be administered as an area under U.S. control, then someone like seslj or milosevic take control over serbia-montenegro again and invade it demanding revenge against the USA for the NATO bombing thus driving the US forces out because the US is too busy with iraq and others. this would in turn make albania and serbia declare war on each other and would then start an all new balkan war. tell me what u guys think.

sounds good

 

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I am very sorry but i havent done anything these days my shooll started adn i was extremlly tired aand was sleeping 14 hours a day.

PS Oh yeah taht albanian guy is right.Albania should have teritorial claims Pristina and Skopje.Serbia on Skopje?Weeelllll
...OK !Yep we always considered them as part of our state(and they were till 1945) and macedonians showed most simpaty of all those who supported us in the bobming 99.

 

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current serbian goverment should be puppets of USA and i agree with Gathenhielm about Kosovo status

well, if macedonians are not serbs than we are macedonians (read: same people). This will be very interesting scenario

 

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Originally posted by Sljam
current serbian goverment should be puppets of USA and i agree with Gathenhielm about Kosovo status

Perhaps instead there could be a Serbian convoy shipping small amounts of resources to some of the NATO countries?

 

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Originally posted by Lunar
Perhaps instead there could be a Serbian convoy shipping small amounts of resources to some of the NATO countries?

That's a good idea, and maybe NATO countries can have Military access through Serbia?

 

[Angelos]

Please...dont raise an argument using the term "Macedonia" for the state known as FYROM.That is the name the UN uses for the mentioned state.Unless you want to create some events about that issue(the greek embargo,the contradictions).

 

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Originally posted by Angelos
Please...dont raise an argument using the term "Macedonia" for the state known as FYROM.That is the name the UN uses for the mentioned state.Unless you want to create some events about that issue(the greek embargo,the contradictions).

Nobody was trying to raise an argument, but Thank you for warning us, thanks.

 

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FYROM is just the long name for Macedonia, no? How is "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" different from just "Macedonia"?

The sanctions were lifted in 1995 and Macedonia & Greece agreed to normalize relations.

Edit: Ok, I looked further and I was wrong. Using F.Y.R.O.M. is the correct way to do it. There is no conventional short form.

 

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Originally posted by Lunar
FYROM is just the long name for Macedonia, no? How is "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" different from just "Macedonia"?

The sanctions were lifted in 1995 and Macedonia & Greece agreed to normalize relations.

Edit: Ok, I looked further and I was wrong. Using F.Y.R.O.M. is the correct way to do it. There is no conventional short form.

Ok, does it matter?

People call the "United Kingdom" England or Britain, and nobody raises an argument, thankfully. People call the "United States" America, and nobody cares about that. So I'm sure calling the "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" Macedonia shouldn't cause an argument, either.