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WAZZA

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Well maby include prussia...
I do not think there will be one really powerfull nation...

England and France ar at war... France seems more powerfull BUT... if byzantine declares war.. (probably not since they are peacfull) i think we have to include prussia... Just to open up a seconbd front and cut down some France and Russian power. What if everyone just started to industrialize except for the horde... they start to do it just a bit later... BUT have at the start a powerfull horsemanskill... Well i think it can be very interesting.... I think we can better put in a no time limit mod as well. (or like end in 1980)
Hope you guys like my idea...




hope one of this links work....
 

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I don't that Prussia should be included from the start but perhaps as a revolter.

Me and my buddy has been discussing about some WW1 style events that covers all nations.. For example:

1. Lonely Horde horsetroops raid villages on the Byzantine Border

2. The Byzantine has had enough and DoW

3. The Horde's independence is guaranteed by Kiev

4. Kiev DoW Byzantine

5. Kalmar seizes this opportunity to have their revenge on Kiev and DoW Kiev to take Gotland and Åland.

6. The Franks are desperate to take the last remainders of the Italian peninsula and DoW Byzantine. (They do so without allying Kiev)

7. England declare a Total War on the Frankish Empire.

8. Kiev also declare war on the Franks as a gesture of power.
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This is just a rough outline.
 

WAZZA

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Da Swede said:
I don't that Prussia should be included from the start but perhaps as a revolter.

Me and my buddy has been discussing about some WW1 style events that covers all nations.. For example:

1. Lonely Horde horsetroops raid villages on the Byzantine Border

2. The Byzantine has had enough and DoW

3. The Horde's independence is guaranteed by Kiev

4. Kiev DoW Byzantine

5. Kalmar seizes this opportunity to have their revenge on Kiev and DoW Kiev to take Gotland and Åland.

6. The Franks are desperate to take the last remainders of the Italian peninsula and DoW Byzantine. (They do so without allying Kiev)

7. England declare a Total War on the Frankish Empire.

8. Kiev also declare war on the Franks as a gesture of power.
------------------------------------------------------------

This is just a rough outline.


well you have an IGM you can contact me on my mail if you want....
Well prussia should be in it... As a revolter... like that idea.... But there has to be another 'central power' in the game for more balance. They do not have to be mediocre... So they will not be crushed fast...

+------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Well if prussia should revolt... then they have to make a pact with horde... Kiev can give in to demands of the revolters.(prussia) If the will not do that horde will attack Kiev...(second front) And a slight change that scandinavia will intervere to get their lost provinces back.. (would be a nice oportunitie)

If Kiev will give up their provinces to prussia there is a slight change that scandinacia claims thier lost provinces. (since giving in to rebels is a sign of weakness)
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Prussia is formed

+---------------+

Scnadinavia wants their provinces back... They won the terrible war and got 1 province back.
OR
Kiev wins and gets a few provinces of scandinavia... (lets say a few from finland)

+---------------+

If the franks are still at war with the english, the rebels (prussia) claim a few provinces of the franks.

+----+
Franks accept: franks lose some provinces(5) and can concentrate on the english
+----+

Franks decline: second front and 1 or 2 provinces defect. (are put under prussian control with some troops to open the second front)

+----------------------------+-----------------------+------------------+
*troops they raised from the declaration of free prussia #!
*troops they got from the defecting provinces #! (peasants)
total will be around #, so the second front isnt that big... but prussia can defend itself to survive.


Well let me think what you guys think of these serial events :p
 

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Da Swede said:
I don't that Prussia should be included from the start but perhaps as a revolter.

Me and my buddy has been discussing about some WW1 style events that covers all nations.. For example:

1. Lonely Horde horsetroops raid villages on the Byzantine Border

2. The Byzantine has had enough and DoW

3. The Horde's independence is guaranteed by Kiev

4. Kiev DoW Byzantine

5. Kalmar seizes this opportunity to have their revenge on Kiev and DoW Kiev to take Gotland and Åland.

6. The Franks are desperate to take the last remainders of the Italian peninsula and DoW Byzantine. (They do so without allying Kiev)

7. England declare a Total War on the Frankish Empire.

8. Kiev also declare war on the Franks as a gesture of power.
------------------------------------------------------------

This is just a rough outline.



well i think there should be more into a mod then this :p

Do you want an all fronted war? I think some 1 vs 1 wars can be funny as well, if their is a possibility that there can be opened a second front.

I think france and byzantium should have a decent navel as well, but they can not get out of the midditeranian and the rest can get in. (just have to figure out how to implent it... probably fuck somethings up with gibraltar)

Scandinavia and Kiev are blood-enemy's.
English and Franks are blood-enemy's.
Horde and Ottoman are blood enemy's. (horde is raiding ottoman and ottoman wants to become a major power once again)

If the horde and ottoman war is settled there is another power on the rise! The real underdog and dangerous if they can capture east turkey!
(they will free some important scientists, so they can get back on track.... the war spoiled their industry and technology)
 

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Ottomans won't be in the final version. They are too insignificant.
I'm just saying the whole scenario should PEAK with that event chain. There will certainly be more chains and other alternative ways. For example, if England reaches Paris in one of their campaigns (which lasts approx one week through events.) The East frankish empire "might" grow tired of the West and seceed.

All sorts of combinations, but if everything goes as planned the scenario should peak with that event chain which can be avoided too.
 

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I know it's alternate history, but if you want to be historically accurate you're going to have to change the borders. You've used a modern blank map of the world as an outline for an alternate history mod whose POD is many centuries back in time.

For example, take Finland, you didn't get those borders until WW2.

If you need any help researching then I'll lend a hand.
 

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Check Other Scenarios and Projects for the new thread,this one has an habit of dying.

Anyway here's the map.

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