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Fire6all

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Hello !

To be completely honest with all of you : I hate children. I'm not talking about everyday life ( even though...doesn't matter. ), but about CK2. Actually, the more you have children, the more you have problems with stupid internal conflicts about legitimacy and claims that I usually handle "diplomatically".

But in this game, there is an underestimated system : adoption. Indeed, even Cesar did it ( what a great idea, we saw how it finished... ) and it was pretty common. That's the reason why I think that adding the possibility to adopt any child who is fatherless ( dead or unknown ) when you are a man and adding him artificially to your children list, though without changing his dynasty. He would be added to the succession list, at the very end ( after the legitimate children and legitimated bastards but before the illegitimate bastards ). He would NATURALLY claim your demesne, but the fact that you accepted to be his new father would make him very found of you, and after that a trustworthy and reliable servant.

Ideas ? Opinions ? Improvements ?
 
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I created an adoption decision for my total conversion mod The Dawn of Civilization(currently being patched), there are also adoption mods on Steam IIRC. The trick is to make it possible but with great penalties to your spouse and other kids (especially your eldest !), plus limitations by culture, religion and or government type.

I must say that in the few times that I have used it it has been quite fun and very useful !
 

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Actually, I wasn't thinking about advertising when creating this thread :D. Thanks all the same, I will download a mod. But I hope that the devs will add it

I think about an event that I had last day : you find a lad who tried to rob your purse in the city streets, and you can choose to bring him back to your court, because he "could be useful". Here, it would be also possible to say "I found my new son".
 

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Historically, titles of nobility could not pass to adopted children. Otherwise, any person in the world (be an uppity peasant, your liege's arch-rival, a Jewish moneylender, or the Abbasid Caliph) could purchase noble titles. Under ancient Roman law, women could not inherit, so to get around that, sonless men would often adult their sons-in-law. Likewise, adoption was used as a heir-designation system. But again, if the Emperor can appoint Lowbornus Peasantius as his heir, than any Roman general can march on Rome and claim the purple. Legitimacy cuts both ways, if the king can insert a non-dynast into the line of succession, then a nondynastic powerful vassal should be able to claim the throne. As kings and feudal nobles support the concept of dynastic legitimacy, adoption could not raise someone into the line of succession.