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Originally posted by Sorcerer
I hope the lack of responses isn't a result of this AAR being in the showcase. Perhaps some people haven't found it... :D

No, you can't hide from us THAT easily! We will track you down relentlessly! You cannot flee sorcerous one!

Sorry, carried away. We will search out your AAR and read your posts, of course. :)
 

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Zauberer,

I just got caught up on your work. Splendid job of dramatizing the military engagements and diplomatic duels! The scene in which the Prussian envoy drew the Saxons back into war was masterful and inspiring.

I'd also like to second the numerous comments about your maps--I love the "weathered" look you give them (wish I knew how to do that; I am graphics-intolerant :rolleyes: ).

Keep it up! I'll be reading.

wathombe
 

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I have read only half of your story so far but I like it very much! Good job! Good to see one of my cousin (teasing) doing an AAR:D (some of my ancestor are from Bayern.)
 

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I have just finished reading an entire AAR, and I would like to offer my compliment for your writing style. I am a new comer to AAR myself and I hope that I could get the courage to write an AAR myself like you did. Good luck with your battle against Frogs, and you should make them croak:D
 

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This is a very good AAR, Sorcerer! :)

A truly worthwhile read, and a great choice for showcasing. Those French... surely you'll teach them a lesson later?
 

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Wow, it seems the old 'Complain about the lack of responses'™ trick works everytime! Seriously, I know that many people read this because of the view count. It just was a bit weird that the post count dropped during the same time the view count rose...

Sytass: I like the Beetle! Thanks again, and I definitely feel the same about your great AAR, which surely doesn't get the attention it deserves.

LD: Of course you're right, see above. Thanks again for choosing me, it definitely attracted more readers. Oh, and Capt. Dürheim surely will see some action, he's with Blücher now... ;)

CA: I would have guessed you're still around. Thanks for the kudos, and no, I don't know about Lee's lost order. I know that Caesar mentioned in his 'De bello gallico' a message thrown into a Roman camp during a siege, which told his legatus 'help is near'. It prevented him form giving up too soon.

Storey: Dunno about multiple messengers, but I know that Waterloo was decided because a message from Napoleon was read wrong, so the French messenger obviously weren't better than the Prussian ones. Actually, that's were I have the idea from. :D

Director: Thanks again, I hope some readers of your AAR decide to post, too. Your view count suggests you have a few lurkers... :)

wathombe: Glad you caught up, I hope you'll enjoy the rest, too. There isn't much 'magic' in the maps, just experiment a little with Photoshop or Gimp...

Zhai: Thank you! You must be really proud of your Bavarian ancestors. :D And regarding the AAR: I can tell you from first-hand experience: Just try your luck!

RJM: Danke schön!

Norgesvenn: Does that mean I get a virtually free drink at the bAAR? :D Thanks, man. The Prussians will get their revanche soon...

Speaking of which, the next installment should be up tomorrow.
 

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Lee's lost orders: Essentially Lee had a set of orders being sent to one of his generals that outlined his entire campaign for the first invasion of the north. The plan, as I recall, was to get around McClellan's army and in between him and DC. That would force McClellan to attack on ground of Lee's choosing. Given the prior performances of McClellan and the entire Army of the Potomac, the plan had at least some chance for success despite the fact that the confederates were greatly outnumbered.

What happened was the orders were lost and then found by a union soldier. They were wrapped around three fine cigars. Now that McClellan knew Lee's plans, he moved against him. The result was the bloody and indecisve battle of Anteim. After the battle, Lee withdrew back to the south and would not return until the second invasion that culminated in Gettysburg.

Harry Turtledoves very interesting alternative history series is based on what if the south won the war because Lee's orders were never lost. He has a very interesting and probable vision of what course history could have taken.
 

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Craig,

True enough. Though one might add one thing. Lee was asked after the war who was the most capable Union General he faced.

His answer, "McClellan, by all odds." McClellan was a general who was all too ready to believe bad intelligence. And the Pinkertons did him no good service. But tactically, the Army of the Potomac under Mac did much better than popular history makes it out. Strategically, Mac was beaten in the 7 days (largely due to the issue I mentioned), but tactically, the Army of Northern Virginia was exposed, battered, and fought every battle on the ground Mac chose. Indeed, if Lincoln had posessed the faith in Mac to actually trust the Urbanna plan, it's very likely Lee never would've escaped Davis' desk.
 

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Craig,

True enough. Though one might add one thing. Lee was asked after the war who was the most capable Union General he faced.

His answer, "McClellan, by all odds." McClellan was a general who was all too ready to believe bad intelligence. And the Pinkertons did him no good service. But tactically, the Army of the Potomac under Mac did much better than popular history makes it out. Strategically, Mac was beaten in the 7 days (largely due to the issue I mentioned), but tactically, the Army of Northern Virginia was exposed, battered, and fought every battle on the ground Mac chose. Indeed, if Lincoln had posessed the faith in Mac to actually trust the Urbanna plan, it's very likely Lee never would've escaped Davis' desk.

McClellan was a very successful railroad executive before the war, and certainly as good an organizer, trainer and motivator the North could have had. He just had problems getting his fine shiny army torn up...

There's an excellent study of the Peninsular Campaign in Rowena Reed's 'Combined Operations in the Civil War'. Part of her argument is that fear of the Confederate ironclad Virginia prevented McClellan from landing where he wished, and then when Lincoln held back troops that McClellan wanted sent to the Peninsula, he just lost faith in his own plan.

This is OT, however - we need to let Sorcerer get on with his excellent AAR! Anyone wants to open a discussion of McClellan, I'm in - tell me where. :D
 

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MacClellan, wasn't he relieved of his command mainly because he avoided to go to battle whenever he had the *faint* idea that the enemy was in a better position, or that the enemy outnumbered him 5-1 (when rather the opposite was the case)?

However, the lost orders are infamous, as they prove what element luck/bad luck can play in war. Didn't MacClellan dismiss those orders as being fake and that they had placed there on purpose? And what ever happened to the officer who lost those orders, by the way?
 

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Düsseldorf, May 1st, 1797

The depressed mood in the command tent of Field Marshal Blücher was almost tangible. The higher ranking officers were downcast, and most of them could still not believe that the French had inflicted such a defeat on them. Everybody took the loss nearly personal, and thought of their personal honour as stained.

Bluecher had viewed this development with great sorrow, and thus had decided that the morale of his men had to be rescued if any gains should be made in this war. He knew that a soldier that doesn’t believe in victory is already beaten. He had to revive their hopes and confidence, and he knew only one way to do this.

“Gentlemen, I know that the French victory is hard to swallow, but we can’t let that stop us. The battle might be lost, but the war carries on!”

Some of the men present looked up, trying to look the Field Marshal in the eye, trying to determine if he believed in what he said. And they saw determination and trust in these eyes, lifting their spirits higher than any speech could have done. Blücher carried on, and gained momentum as he spoke.

“Do you really think the French are better than us? Do you really think we can only lose? Then go home and wait for them to parade through Berlin!”

Some more officers raised their heads, reminded of the danger their homes were in, and of their duty to protect their families. Even those who still didn’t quite believe in Prussian superiority forced themselves to straighten up, not for themselves, but for their people.

“This was but a minor skirmish, don’t believe anything else! We are still powerful, and we will let the French experience our might. We will give up this siege, and march directly on Moreau’s position. We will wipe out the stain on Prussia’s history, and show the frog-eaters that we are not beaten, only more angry!”

And finally the fire had sprung over, and now it burned in the eyes of everyone in the tent. Unanimously, the officers drew their sabres, and shouted: “For Prussia!”

Köln, May 14th, 1797

Looking on the torn field before him, the Feldmarschall replayed yesterday’s battle in his mind. Moreau had assumed the same position as Bülow before him, because he had hoped that the same advantage that had worked in Bülow’s favour would work for him, too.

He had forgotten that this tactic had only worked because both armies had consisted solely of infantry. For Moreau, this was still the case. Bluecher’s army, however, had also a large contingent of artillery, new 12-pounders, that had been ordered for the siege of Düsseldorf, and of course the Field Marshal commanded some cavalry regiments. Coupled with the numerical superiority, this left little doubt that the French couldn’t stand a chance.

Despite knowing this, the French General had chosen to give battle. Blücher couldn’t decide whether this was stupid bravery or brave stupidity. Whichever it was, it had provided the Prussian leader with a perfect opportunity to repair the moral damage his troops had experienced.

The preliminary artillery bombardment had had a huge effect on the enemy because of the higher ground he had chosen. It had proved to be more like a trap during the early phases of the battle, because Moreau didn’t dare to give up his position and leave himself unprotected.

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Storming Prussian infantry

When finally the footmen had assaulted the heights, there was little resistance left. Who had survived the barrage had turned to flee quickly, but the Prussian cavalry had chased them down, taking bloody revenge for the earlier defeat. Since the French General had decided to share the fate of his troops, he had perished together with them.

Blücher knew there were many people regarding this as a ‘weak’ victory, because of the huge numerical advantage his army had enjoyed. Those same people would probably call him a coward, and demand of him to fight an equal opponent to show his true skills. But he cared little for these opinions. The difference between a fighter and a warrior was that the warrior thought of the next battle, too.

Every opportunity to inflict casualties on the enemy had to be seized, and fighting a weaker opponent was the best opportunity you could ask for. After all, it was the fault of the French to present him with such presents. Recent victory had reminded him of an ancient philosophy he had read about in history books, one that he could put to use very well here and now. He recalled the simple yet elegant phrase that described a recipe for victory, his victory over the French.

Divide et impera.

The great Caesar had managed to subdue a whole people using this strategy, with a relative small army. The united front of the Gauls would have crushed him, but he had fought and beaten them one by one. At the end, there was no one left to challenge him.

Divide and conquer. While his army wasn’t strong enough to face the combined might of the foe, it was big enough to deal with them one by one. Ceasar would have been proud…
 

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Blücher following the footsteps of Caesar?

I wonder when he will cross the Spree and say "Alea Iacta Est" while the Prussian king flees his palace. ;)
 

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Sytass,

Yes, that's why he was dismissed. Though, to be fair, as I mentioned, it wasn't merely a "faint" idea that he was facing 2-1 odds. His intel (bad as it was), was feeding him that exact information.

As for his quality as a General, all one needs to do is point out the fact that every other Union General Lee faced besides Meade got the stuffing kicked out of him repeatedly. Even Grant didn't "beat" Lee tactically as Mac and Meade did (though to be honest, the victory at Gettysburg belonged more to Hancock than to Meade, as Hancock chose the ground, fortified it, and controlled the Union order of battle by and large), rather Grant merely used his bulldog tenacity to bleed Lee down to the point he couldn't maintain the defense of a siege any longer. Grant was thrashed soundly throughout the 40 days right up to the most brutal slaughter of the entire war, Cold Harbor. Then he managed to prove every fear of the "Shenandoah Shotgun" true by negligence in the Earle raid.

Grant's genius (in the East), such as it was, was not to allow results in the East to distract him, but to simply keep Lee pinned down outside Richmond while Sherman steamrolled the Western Southern Generals, who by and large were little more competent (after Johnston's death at Shiloh) than the Union Generals in the East who got stomped by Lee.
 

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Hate to continue the highjack, but ... *shrugs*. McClellan was a skilled organizer and built the Union army in the east up very rapidly. The fact was, that in addition to being plagued by atrocious intel, he was a very slow mover. Lee easily could cover twice the ground in a day that Mac could. One of his other problems was that he had horrid subordinates. At Anteim, Burnside took half a day with his entire corps to take a bridge held by a division. Other generals like Butler, Banks, and Buell were just as bad. Still, Mac was far too catious and hated to see casualties of the army he built. I wouldn't call him the worst commander the north had, but he was far from the best.

Grant's reputation, I feel, has been unnecessarily butchered (I know, that's an ironic choose of words;) ) He would and did use sheer numbers at times and took heavy casaulties, but there are plent of other instances were he used movement and daring to win the battle. The wilderness is a battle were the north took massive casualties and is one that I have heard referenced to "proof" of Grant's butchery. It is often forgotten that the south was deeply entrenched in heavily wooded terrian, and that Grant continualy used flanking manuvoers to attempt to get around Lee. Lee did meet each of these but had to fall back with each one. The human loss was horrible, but Grant did not give up, as any of the previous commanders in the east would have. I would not call it a tactical victory for Grant, but a large strategic one. My point is that Grant did not simple order all out assault after all out assault as many people think.

His campaign at Vicksburg is another example, but I won't go into it here. Sorry, Sorceror, you do have a nice AAR going here and I hope you don't mind a mini civil war debate taking place in it.:) Anyone know a way we could continue this discussion in the AAR forum? I despise the general froums because there so much arrogance and outright stupidity there. I've said it before, but I'll say it again, we all owe LD and Warspite a big thank you for the spirit of community in this forum.

Keep up the good work, Sorceror!
 

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Very good written!

This was but a minor skirmish, don’t believe anything else! We are still powerful, and we will let the French experience our might. We will give up this siege, and march directly on Moreau’s position. We will wipe out the stain on Prussia’s history, and show the frog-eaters that we are not beaten, only more angry!”

:D Maybe you could add that "We shall make frogs croak":) I like your style. Good luck with the battle against Napoleon. I like your battle scene, I could see it in my mind.
 

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Craig,

If you noted, I said Grant's genius in the EAST was this. Grant in the West was masterful. But I have to disagree with you on the 40 days. The only battle that didn't end in a disaster was Spotsylvania. He bled the best Corps in his army (Hancock's) so badly that it ceased to be an effective fighting force and disillusioned Hancock so badly he left the war. And at Cold Harbor he did exactly what you are trying to say he didn't. He attacked a heavily entrenched position despite the protests of every competent commander in the Army. Then to top it off he left them there to rot for three days before he finally relented and asked for a truce to gather the dead, many of whom could've been saved if he had been willing to admit the failure in the beginning.

As for the problem with slow movement. Indeed, this was a problem throughout the war in the East for the Union. The only two Generals who could move their corps with any rapidity were Reynolds (who ceased to be able to do so after the first day of Gettyburg) and Hancock. The reason why Hooker failed at Chacellorsville was two-fold. One, the army moved too slowly to take advantage of what was, in truth, a brilliant battle plan. Two, Hooker lost his nerve when Jackson stole the march on him. To be honest, if Hooker had been able to hold his command together and face Jackson's initial attack, it would've very likely turned into a slaughter of Confederates.

BTW, I'm not in the "bash Grant" camp either. Vicksburg, and the campaign on the Mississippi before Shiloh were both textbook campaigns brilliantly conducted. Also one has to remember that the March to the Sea was done with Grant's blessing as General-in-Chief. So no, I'm not saying Grant was a bad commander. I'm merely saying he never tactically got the better of Lee the way Mac did. Though Grant strategically, of course, did much better than Mac ever did, or indeed, would have done.

Two different aspects of Generalship. That's what I'm trying to indicate. Mac was better at one, Grant at the other. Lee was better at both than either of them, but didn't have the resources to win. Indeed very few others would've ever lasted as long as he did.
 

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Shawn,

I never said you were in the bash Grant camp. I noted your qualification refering to which theater Grant was in. My post was more a general defense of Grant. There is a movement out there to kick Grant around as an incompetent general.

There certainly were times that Grant ordered a head on assault when it wasn't the best option before him. Almost every general in the Civil War had a battle or two where they didn't perform well. Look at Lee, the best overall general in the war, at Gettysburg. If he had moved around the union army after the first day, the roles may have been reversed. Not to mention the entire battle was blundered into against his orders. I never understood why he stayed and fought on such terrible terrain.

I'm still a little iffy on your assertation that Mac was a good tactical commander. He may have managed to bloody the confederate army, but given his large numerical advantage, he should have been able to do far more. Strategic moves did cost him, but once he got on the battlefield he still should of been able to defeat an outnumbered foe. I don't think Mac was the worst general in the Army of the Potomac, not by a long shot. My vote would easily go to Ambrose Burnside. Massive incompetence at Fredricksburg, along with a number of pathetic battles where he was a subordinate.
 

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Sorry for the long delay, I hope I haven't lost anyone along the way.

Feldmrschl: Thanks! Btw, is there a reason your Nick is cut short?

Sytass: Yeah, fat chance. :D Although he probably would be a better king than Friedrich Wilhelm... :rolleyes:

CA (&shawn): No problem, I think since this thread's name is The AARt of War, some discussions about that topic are OK. I'm always interested to learn more, as long as I'm able to squeeze some story posts in between. :rolleyes: ;) :)

Zhai: Thank you! I hope the frogs croaked enough in the next installment... ;)