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Great Game just wanted to say thanks, a good change from a lot of whingeing from the forums(don't get offended your aloud to voice your own opinion just when you say eu4 is unplayable because of one feature you don't like it, it just annoys me So Thanks for the free patch
 

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Yeah 1.5 is so much better than 1.4 and all the previous versions, keep improving this amazing game:)
 

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EU4 isn't unplayable because of one feature. It is "un-fun" because of several design choices.

I really thought EU4 was going to be more ambitious, but it has turned out to be an unnecessarily complicated reinvention of Risk. i.e. Johan has explicitly stated this is a game of conquest and implicitly stated that all mechanics are put into place to facilitate conquest. Never mind that there were many other important things going on in this time period unrelated to conquest.

just my $.02
 

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Don't let this vocal minority that hides from the issues brought up let you mistakenly think the game is working well, PI :).
But don't let the vocal minority that constantly brings up issues with the game make you mistakenly think the game is an absolute train wreck for everyone...
 
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the only thing that bugs me about this patch is the ridiculous notion that every building is giving you manpower it makes armories seem pointless if the calculations were correct
 

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But don't let the vocal minority that constantly brings up issues with the game make you mistakenly think the game is an absolute train wreck for everybody...

That's usually an overreaction from the "this game is great no matter how big a pile we get" crowd. Most of the complaints are very feature-specific, though a few actually are gamebreaking (MP issues that directly inhibit one's ability to play the game at all) or straight up inconsistent with the rest of the game's design + senseless to the point where literally 0 people in the world can apparently defend them in a rational manner (IE the thread in my signature).

Breaking saves/achievements between patches *is* also gamebreaking.

When someone makes a thread like this, it flies in the face of legitimate issues brought forth by these patches that have a serious impact on the gameplay experience for many players. In fact, I will go so far as to claim it's arrogant and asinine to wave off such dissent as a "vocal minority" without evidence. I could just as justifiably call people who like everything about the patch an extreme minority; and my basis would be every bit as valid as the nonsense in the OP, or from you. It's a strict fallacy, and it's bullcrap. If someone just doesn't like a feature, that's fine. If someone presents very good reasons why a feature isn't functioning properly (IE subject nations not calling their master, or AIs declaring wars on targets it can't reach no matter what), ignoring that reflects very poorly on people advocating this was a good patch.
 

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That's usually an overreaction from the "this game is great no matter how big a pile we get" crowd. Most of the complaints are very feature-specific, though a few actually are gamebreaking (MP issues that directly inhibit one's ability to play the game at all) or straight up inconsistent with the rest of the game's design + senseless to the point where literally 0 people in the world can apparently defend them in a rational manner (IE the thread in my signature).

Breaking saves/achievements between patches *is* also gamebreaking.

When someone makes a thread like this, it flies in the face of legitimate issues brought forth by these patches that have a serious impact on the gameplay experience for many players. In fact, I will go so far as to claim it's arrogant and asinine to wave off such dissent as a "vocal minority" without evidence. I could just as justifiably call people who like everything about the patch an extreme minority; and my basis would be every bit as valid as the nonsense in the OP, or from you. It's a strict fallacy, and it's bullcrap. If someone just doesn't like a feature, that's fine. If someone presents very good reasons why a feature isn't functioning properly (IE subject nations not calling their master, or AIs declaring wars on targets it can't reach no matter what), ignoring that reflects very poorly on people advocating this was a good patch.
Whoa man, I'm not looking to start a fight here. Chill. Just some simple people here who like the game. I don't even know why or what you're trying to argue.
 
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The improvements are great and many :)

Thank you developers.

I have the pleasure of playing the new version now, and it is a much more fun experience than any previous version!

The future looks bright :)
 

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The improvements are great and many :)

Thank you developers.

I have the pleasure of playing the new version now, and it is a much more fun experience than any previous version!

The future looks bright :)