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Finally, you've released a patch that makes rebels significant. It's buggy. I know. But, to be honest, I don't care. I just want to thank you for allowing this to happen...

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And it doesn't look like they were forced to release them in a peace deal or anything. I'm not Greek, it's just that EUIV is an alternate history game, and the Ottomans didn't have some magical great-power destiny. Thanks Johan.
 

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Don´t be surprised if you see that land going back to the Ottomans (or anyone else really) in a few years again because of the rebels. Rebels and the AI are incredibly broken but people love it! Go figure! :rofl:
 

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People probably like rebels because they're human-favored. If you understand their nuances, you can abuse your land and still get manageable rebels. The AI doesn't understand the nuances.

Greek are unlikely to lose land to rebels here as they'll probably have peasant typing, but the Ottos are pretty likely to reconquest them to death in short order anyway lol.
 

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Keep an eye on that Wallachia. In my last game, they leveraged an Austria+Russia alliance to chomp on Otto in his moment of weakness.

(And in my current game they were the driving force in the dismantling of the Commonwealth. Seriously, 1.8 AI Wallachia is all kinds of awesome. It survives long enough with its +coring cost to get a strong military going and tear into the surrounding area.)
 

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Keep an eye on that Wallachia. In my last game, they leveraged an Austria+Russia alliance to chomp on Otto in his moment of weakness.

(And in my current game they were the driving force in the dismantling of the Commonwealth. Seriously, 1.8 AI Wallachia is all kinds of awesome. It survives long enough with its +coring cost to get a strong military going and tear into the surrounding area.)

In my game Wallachia was the opposite: they attacked two times 2PM Bulgaria which didn't have any ally, they lost both times and got annexed.
 

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In my game Moldavia managed to get on the right side of an alliance chain involving both Austria and France. They now now control half of Hungary and a good chunk of Commonwealth after Commonwealth was forced to release some of those Ruthenian minors by Austria and France. They are top 10 in military right now I think, and one province from the Ottomans away from forming Romania. Which they probably will as I just hamed all over Ottomans and now Bohemia is hamming all over them too(for the second time mind you). I have no idea how a Bohemia that was reduced to 2 provinces by Austria with an alliance of 3 HRE minors managed to eat the other half of Hungary that the Ottomans had, and has seiged down all the Balkans in the second war, when Ottomans have 300 forcelimit, more than twice of the third strongest power, France.
 

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I just saw the same Greece - same provinces, though Orthodox - revolt in my current game. Have to say, it was good to see Greece in Greece and not in Crimea.
 

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Keep an eye on that Wallachia. In my last game, they leveraged an Austria+Russia alliance to chomp on Otto in his moment of weakness.

(And in my current game they were the driving force in the dismantling of the Commonwealth. Seriously, 1.8 AI Wallachia is all kinds of awesome. It survives long enough with its +coring cost to get a strong military going and tear into the surrounding area.)

I had Byzantium do the same in my game, as the beneficiary of a Venice-Poland-Lithuania-Mameluk alliance against the Ottomans. Venice as the war leader gave them like 6 provinces at the end of that war, and they have since driven the Ottomans out of Europe and are making headway against them in Asia as well!
 

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I claim Elfenbeincoast from France. Is his only province in Africa. But everytime there start a revolt with 24 units. They want back to France. My troop limit as NA nativ is 58. I need 50 units so save the homeland. No change for me to handle this. The only option was 25% rebellion rollback for 300 militärpoints. Really 300 points?!
 
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Rebels? Iv seen far less rebels now since I just increase autonomy.

Doing that in all cases is gimping yourself. You only want to boost LA when you are 1) going to get a revolt if you don't (often times, you can get away w/o doing it and not get a revolt) and 2) can't easily dispatch of the resulting revolt.

Even then, you want to only boost it in junk provinces unless you literally can't fight anything.