Thank you for your hard work, devs!

[IshOfTheWoods]

I just wanted to recognize the hard work of all the devs (designers, coders, QA, and everyone else) that went into this update. Thank you for the bravery to try out some truly massive changes. I don't agree with everything, but a lot of talk on this forum has been pretty toxic, so just want y'all to know that there are those of us who silently appreciate your effort. Please don't be discouraged by entitled internet people! Keep up the hard work!

This is a thread for appreciation. If you want to talk about pops, there's plenty of other threads for that already, so post about it there and keep it civil.

 

[Liggi]

Couldn’t agree more. So many bugs fixed, some bold changes, awesome new systems that can be built on.

All round great work. I’m having more fun with Stellaris than I ever have.

 

[Boostman10790]

I just wanted to recognize the hard work of all the devs (designers, coders, QA, and everyone else) that went into this update. Thank you for the bravery to try out some truly massive changes. I don't agree with everything, but a lot of talk on this forum has been pretty toxic, so just want y'all to know that there are those of us who silently appreciate your effort. Please don't be discouraged by entitled internet people! Keep up the hard work!

This is a thread for appreciation. If you want to talk about pops, there's plenty of other threads for that already, so post about it there and keep it civil.

Very well said. The effort and love shown by the devs is very clear.

 

[TrotBot]

I just wanted to recognize the hard work of all the devs (designers, coders, QA, and everyone else) that went into this update. Thank you for the bravery to try out some truly massive changes. I don't agree with everything, but a lot of talk on this forum has been pretty toxic, so just want y'all to know that there are those of us who silently appreciate your effort. Please don't be discouraged by entitled internet people! Keep up the hard work!

This is a thread for appreciation. If you want to talk about pops, there's plenty of other threads for that already, so post about it there and keep it civil.

definitely the best state the game has ever been in. there will be plenty of tweaks to come, no need for people to get all mad, it's an exciting new era the way the Le Guin and Banks updates were. i had literally stopped playing before those updates and they made me come back in a big way. while i never dropped it since, this update has the same exciting feel to it.

 

[Lot]

I don't agree with everything, but a lot of talk on this forum has been pretty toxic

I must have missed those posts, heated maybe but toxic?

 

[Bayes]

Absolutely agree. I am not a fan of the new growth changes, but I think everything else is nice, and at the very least I think everyone should recognize the quality of this dlc launch.

 

[Lot]

This is an internet forum, opinions are just worded much harsher here (just look at twitter or yt comments). I don't necessarily agree with that attitude, but this game has had a rough history with patches so I understand the emotion behind it at least.

 

[Franet]

I would also like to leave my thanks to the devs here (used here as a synonym for everyone who worked on the update).

It was a tremendous step in the right direction !!

Here in Brazil we have a popular saying:

If not even Jesus Christ pleased everyone, who will tell me.

Thanks!

 

[Ashantai]

A reminder to keep posts on topic and productive.

 

[Lykus Cerebros]

Yeah am pretty happy with most of the changes and can see the reasoning behind.

Really love the whole first contact protocol and fog of war mechnanics. The galaxy feels so much more alive with those things.

 

[gladonos]

The changes are great... But yea no, sorry but something needs to be done about the pop growth and that little stab they took in the 3.02 patch notes was uhhh wow.

 

[Lykus Cerebros]

The changes are great... But yea no, sorry but something needs to be done about the pop growth and that little stab they took in the 3.02 patch notes was uhhh wow.

You mean where they asked everyone to be civil and provide constructive feedback and not just spam the 15th thread titled Pop growth changes are terrible.
Yeah how could they.

EDIT: i also think that a hard cap is probably not the best idea. Yet I am gonna give it a chance to see how it goes and then see if I or someone on the forum can come up with a better system.

 

[severedsolo]

I think the patch is good - I will say I'm not massively happy with the pop changes, but I think it just needs tweaking, I don't really have a good grasp on what needs to change yet, I need to let it bed in and figure it out.

The intel system though - oh my god, you guys have outdone yourselves. I'm not one to gush, but it's really great. Desparately trying to gather intel on a rival, knowing that they might attack me at any moment but having no idea of their capabilities, only having a vague idea of what's going on at the other side of the galaxy, watching the galaxy go dark as the Khan spreads out *chef's kiss* just perfection

 

[gladonos]

You mean where they asked everyone to be civil and provide constructive feedback and not just spam the 15th thread titled Pop growth changes are terrible.
Yeah how could they.

EDIT: i also think that a hard cap is probably not the best idea. Yet I am gonna give it a chance to see how it goes and then see if I or someone on the forum can come up with a better system.

If they said "Please be civil" aimed at everyone it would be different. Instead they looked directly at everyone that is unhappy with the change and made a subtle threat.

I had no negative opinion of Paradox before but that was just low and unexpected.

 

[Calvax]

If they said "Please be civil" aimed at everyone it would be different. Instead they looked directly at everyone that is unhappy with the change and made a subtle threat.

I had no negative opinion of Paradox before but that was just low and unexpected.

Sorry but where did they make a subtle threat? In what way would you improve this statement? All they said were "please keep giving us feedback, but no hateful comments please."

Secondly, I want to briefly touch on an aspect of the big economic rework we’ve done to improve the game – including the pop growth rebalancing. Please continue to give us constructive feedback and keep your messages civil, but don't spam random threads with hateful comments. Those will not be tolerated. We are continuously collecting your feedback and it will help us make tweaks to these complex systems. We are planning to address some of the feedback in the upcoming Dev Diary scheduled for Thursday!

 

[Lot]

Sorry but where did they make a subtle threat? In what way would you improve this statement? All they said were "please keep giving us feedback, but no hateful comments please."

I imagine it's the "Those will not be tolerated" bit. Another case of failing to read something on the internet favorably, something everybody struggles with.

 

[Ixal]

They do hard work. The problem is that this specific kind of work should not have been necessary.

The panicked change to pops cost Stellaris years of actual development as devs were tied up with fixing the problems that caused. And that was not the only instance where the complete change in direction of the game because of constant changes to the lead dev who each had a completely different vision of Stellaris and wanted to radically change the game to suit his vision caused problems.

That is not helped with the Clausewitz engine being a limiting factor, especially its AI systems which is not very smart and can't use most mechanics in the game.

So yes, the devs work hard, but in the end the result will only be mediocre because of factors which can't be solved by "work harder".

 

[Zoomy]

Hey, QA, I know a lot of people claim you don't exist or do anything, but I know you exists, and I know you find most of the bugs before we even know there's a patch coming, so thanks for your efforts.

 

[Enfield_PDX]

Hey, QA, I know a lot of people claim you don't exist or do anything, but I know you exists, and I know you find most of the bugs before we even know there's a patch coming, so thanks for your efforts.

Always wanted to say this. Yes, the rumour of our deaths is highly exaggerated.

 

[Khalep]

Just wanted to second the OP and many of the others in this thread: I really like the new update and am thoroughly enjoying the game at the moment. Thank you!