TfV and DoD focus trees "currently has no effect" on completion v1.4.0 (9b1f)

[liam_p]

Hi,

I'm formally submitting a bug from this forum thread
This is happening in 1.4.0 "Oak" and from this forum thread it was happening in 1.3 as well.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/this-focus-currently-has-no-effect.1000235/

Description:
In summary, for new nations brought in TfV and DoD, when you complete a national focus the "effect" description disappears and is replaced with "...currently has no effect..." - a specific example being British Raj and Provincial elections, but it seems to be the case for nearly all new focus trees (I obviously haven't tested every new nation and every focus). This is just cosmetic but annoying nonetheless.

DLC Information:
Together For Victory
Death Or Dishonor
Anniversary Pack
Historical German Portraits
Poland:United and Ready
A bunch of unit packs, let me know if knowing each one is important.

Mods:
Battlesound - Sound Modifications
(My checksum might be off as to troubleshoot the issue I messed around with the India national focus file)

Reproduction Steps:
Start game with one of the new nations, India for example
Look at a national focuses effects, Provincial Elections for example
complete said national focus
Take another look at this focuses effects
It will now say "This focus currently has no effect. Changes in the world situation may affect this."

Resolution/workaround Steps:
I took the liberty of investigating this and found two possible fixes for you, so hopefully this should be easy now

In the ..\Hearts of Iron IV\common\national_focus folder, for the nation files in question.
for example: India.txt then browse for id = RAJ_provincial_election
you will notice this section and it is empty.
complete_tooltip = {
}
So when you complete the focus the effect description disappears.
This seems to be the case for almost all of the focuses for all of the new nations from TfV and DoD

There are two ways of resolving it, remove the section entirely, or populate it.
Screenshot after I removed the section or populated it

 

[Pellaken]

has this been fixed?

 

[bitmode]

has this been fixed?

No

 

[jontsuba]

No, and we don't if it has been taken into account for the next version

@podcat

 

[James Hale]

No, and we don't if it has been taken into account for the next version

@podcat

Given that it's quite a lot of work for little actual gain, you can probably bet that it won't be.

This is really just an annoying visual issue, but it doesn't actually affect any gameplay stuff as such. I fixed it because I find it incredibly annoying and I'm a bit OCD with stuff like this, but given the sheer amount of longstanding unfixed issues in this game, I can't imagine any of the devs are going to spend a couple of hours going through all the focus trees and making these changes.

 

[cnwi]

Given that it's quite a lot of work for little actual gain, you can probably bet that it won't be.

This is really just an annoying visual issue, but it doesn't actually affect any gameplay stuff as such. I fixed it because I find it incredibly annoying and I'm a bit OCD with stuff like this, but given the sheer amount of longstanding unfixed issues in this game, I can't imagine any of the devs are going to spend a couple of hours going through all the focus trees and making these changes.

You always talk about your custom mod; is it available somewhere?

 

[jontsuba]

Given that it's quite a lot of work for little actual gain, you can probably bet that it won't be.

This is really just an annoying visual issue, but it doesn't actually affect any gameplay stuff as such. I fixed it because I find it incredibly annoying and I'm a bit OCD with stuff like this, but given the sheer amount of longstanding unfixed issues in this game, I can't imagine any of the devs are going to spend a couple of hours going through all the focus trees and making these changes.

But I still find annoying not being able to see the effect of the focus I just made. Is like, "why did I just do this?"

 

[Pellaken]

But I still find annoying not being able to see the effect of the focus I just made. Is like, "why did I just do this?"

it stops you from knowing what the enemy has done as well, making decryption less important. it does impact the game despite what some say.

 

[Faust-chan]

Thi issue is still here. Maybe a change for the next patch?

 

[billcorr]

Bump.

The endstate is that Paradox provides information to the customer so that the customer can make informed decisions.

 

[stargamer112]

This needs to be fixed with Man The Guns. The new DLC comes with more focus trees and we can't use 3 DLC's in a row having the bug.

 

[Olanov]

Bumping for awareness, needs fixing.

 

[billcorr]

Looks like progress! (?)

Here's a screensnip from Daniel's live stream from 9 Jan 2019 taken at about
6 minutes and 37 seconds
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/361258155

Lookee here:



The screensnip displays a completed Dutch national focus.

Note how the effect of the completed national focus is spelled out.

How 'bout dem apples!

At the risk of counting my chickens before they are hatched:

Well done, team. Thanks for your attention to this detail.

 

[SeekTruthFromFx]

Good spot, @billcorr! And good work by the Content Scripters!

However, this only means that the 1.6/MTG National Focuses have been written correctly. It doesn't mean that the bug in the 1.5/TFV/WTT Focuses has been fixed. One down, one to go.

 

[James Hale]

It would be nice if this was fixed (I posted the problem on page 1).

 

[stargamer112]

I posted this problem today on page 1 of the new DD. Please upvote. They seem to ignore it.