So today we got the decisions option and i really like it.... but i have one problem. Maybe i'm just to stupid but i wanted to play as Japan and activated the Test the Soviet Union Decision but nothing happens.... can anybody give me an advice?
Test the Soviet Union
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You need to have forces on the soviet border in Northern Korea and wait 30 days after enacting 'Test the Soviets' decision to get new option/decision 'Escalate the Incident'.
All I got from that was "Mission failed", even though I had lots of troops on th eKorean/Soviet border.
From what I saw you basically need to watch that timer like a hawk and have pause ready at hand.
I made a separate thread about this from the Soviet end. You can reinforce and it's an auto-fail too.
just tried this and nothing happened except failing.
There's nothing in game that tells you where troops need to be or how to actually initiate the conflict.
'window of opportunity' is 30 days which is the exact same length as the 'test the russians' length. Neither let you know how to actually implement it.
There's nothing in game that tells you where troops need to be or how to actually initiate the conflict.
'window of opportunity' is 30 days which is the exact same length as the 'test the russians' length. Neither let you know how to actually implement it.
I almost never post and came to the forums looking for the solution as well. Just so happens, I found it myself so was going to share.
When you click to "Test the Russians" you're right, it gives you a window of 30 days. Now for me, during that 30 days I could do absolutely nothing. HOWEVER, On the very last day, of the very last hour, of the very last minute - I paused my game at just the right time. Both of the "Test the Russians" and "Escalate" option, move to the bottom of the list and it was then I was able to actually click and escalate.
I don't know if you have more time to click it or if you have to be fast on that pause button, I didn't test that. All I know is that at the end of the 30 days I had the option to escalate. Hope that helps.
When you click to "Test the Russians" you're right, it gives you a window of 30 days. Now for me, during that 30 days I could do absolutely nothing. HOWEVER, On the very last day, of the very last hour, of the very last minute - I paused my game at just the right time. Both of the "Test the Russians" and "Escalate" option, move to the bottom of the list and it was then I was able to actually click and escalate.
I don't know if you have more time to click it or if you have to be fast on that pause button, I didn't test that. All I know is that at the end of the 30 days I had the option to escalate. Hope that helps.
Ok, so it's possible, but whomever setup the events for it failed hard.
Which doesn't surprise me because a lot of the China events are fails as well. Even while at war with Japan, communists can do bad things in korea which give Japan a decision to annex China. Over and over again you get the same decision.
Also, the border wars don't mean much because Japan wipes China off the map so fast, you get one chance at doing anything given the low PP generation.
What the border war with the Soviets did for me was actually give me 2 ahead research technologies by 50%. Think one was for land and one was for armor. That armor one was nice at the time it happen.
I know as playing as SOV this event can work from JAP side. Haven't looked at it to see what may increase the odds, but without reinforcing the provs' it always fired as a success for JAP when I'm SOV
After playing some of the chinese warlords and seeing how the border war mechanics work, it definitely feels like someone didn't implement the 'test the soviets' properly.
I had to wait for the 30 days to pass and I had some divisions at the one province border in Korea next to the Soviet Union. One hour after passing the 30 days, a decision appeared that read "Escalate the incident" at the bottom of the events and decision list.
The Soviets reinforce their border province and a fight ensues. Unless you choose to "Escalate the conflict" and declare a war that costs 200 political power points you will most likely just fail with "Escalate the incident".
However, how smart it is to start a full blown war with the Soviet Union in 1937 I leave for others to decide.
The Soviets reinforce their border province and a fight ensues. Unless you choose to "Escalate the conflict" and declare a war that costs 200 political power points you will most likely just fail with "Escalate the incident".
However, how smart it is to start a full blown war with the Soviet Union in 1937 I leave for others to decide.
Well, it does force the Soviet Union to maintain a sizable contingent in the Far East. This negates the 1 division training strat!
Is there any point to doing a border conflict with Russia as Japan? I just won Nomonhan (after doing 1 escalation). I got some PP and army experience, thats... it? Was rather unenthused. Not sure if it's worth serious effort.
nothing like bumping a dead thread that a mod had posted in to get the necromancy charges flowin
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As Soviets, the border clash came early, I won it, got the bonus, and forgot about it while the GREAT PURGE was still going on .
Germany had turned France Fascist, and next I knew; N.France had roped Japan into DW-ing ME (*extreme swearing !!*) ... around Aug'41[??] . The Japs roared north, almost reaching Lake Baikal and the mines of Ulan-Ute (sp??) beside the Amur river; hastily recruited troops were able to hold the in line .
The Japs then went after Mongolia {more troops}, capitulated China and Raj; and flooded into Sinkaing, along with Germans, Spanish, Mexicans, and Portugese 'friends' .
East Front forces include INF, MTN, Cavalry, and L.tanks (40W) .
The Eastern Front has stabilized by January'44, and has begun pushing back the Japs; waiting for Our forces to finish Yugoslavia in the West .
Major foes : West, Germany, N.France(dead), Yugoslavia(dying), and Spain(unreachable, no navy; yet); East, Japan and China(doomed) . A period of R&R after Greece and Bulgaria to bring up XXs to full, and a few more 40W medium tank XXs; and then ...
Due to distances involved, it will take some time [2-3 months] to reinforce East Front, but the oncoming avalanche of 8-10 full up ARMIES will be unstoppable .
Done WITHOUT 'battle planner' or FMs !
Germany had turned France Fascist, and next I knew; N.France had roped Japan into DW-ing ME (*extreme swearing !!*) ... around Aug'41[??] . The Japs roared north, almost reaching Lake Baikal and the mines of Ulan-Ute (sp??) beside the Amur river; hastily recruited troops were able to hold the in line .
The Japs then went after Mongolia {more troops}, capitulated China and Raj; and flooded into Sinkaing, along with Germans, Spanish, Mexicans, and Portugese 'friends' .
East Front forces include INF, MTN, Cavalry, and L.tanks (40W) .
The Eastern Front has stabilized by January'44, and has begun pushing back the Japs; waiting for Our forces to finish Yugoslavia in the West .
Major foes : West, Germany, N.France(dead), Yugoslavia(dying), and Spain(unreachable, no navy; yet); East, Japan and China(doomed) . A period of R&R after Greece and Bulgaria to bring up XXs to full, and a few more 40W medium tank XXs; and then ...
Due to distances involved, it will take some time [2-3 months] to reinforce East Front, but the oncoming avalanche of 8-10 full up ARMIES will be unstoppable .
Done WITHOUT 'battle planner' or FMs !
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