Test of Time 4: The Art of Total War

[unmerged(11287)]

Shame, after Dago's effort and dedication you're changing times to recruit more ppl, i curse this campaign, me spits on the floor.
Actually it's a shame you're continuing this after our great fail in TofT2, of course, because of technical problems
What's more, letting Drake and Bocaj to comand this... tsk tsk, it's like letting Buttiglioni to care about gay rights sorry if this annoys you guys, but as far as I'm concerned Dago contributed to bring this campaign to "popularity", now using this popularity to creat a total different campaign in self-benefit, shame.

 

[unmerged(23007)]

Wasnt ToT devoted to be a GC - class game?

 

[admiral drake]

Wasnt ToT devoted to be a GC - class game?

tot was created for 1453 scenario not gc not aoe

 

[unmerged(10894)]

Originally, the ToT series was devoted to my ToT scenario. When I moved on to making the 1453 scenario instead of the ToT scenario, that's how the 3rd in the series came about, using instead the 1453 scenario. This one, well it should really probably be using it too, as it was the series purpose.

A week before the last ToT finished, I said to everyone that I could not make the same time as what it had previously been. DST meant that the start time was 2 hours forward from what I had started the game, and coupled with some RL factors meant I could only play something earlier, (but still the same time for me!). I was prepared to let the ToT series go and have someone else GM the later, normal time, but for one no one stepped forward, and a number of people expressed their desire to have this earlier time. As I said on ICQ dago, I'm sorry that our times mean we both can't play.

 

[unmerged(23007)]

Originally, the ToT series was devoted to my ToT scenario. When I moved on to making the 1453 scenario instead of the ToT scenario, that's how the 3rd in the series came about, using instead the 1453 scenario. This one, well it should really probably be using it too, as it was the series purpose.

A week before the last ToT finished, I said to everyone that I could not make the same time as what it had previously been. DST meant that the start time was 2 hours forward from what I had started the game, and coupled with some RL factors meant I could only play something earlier, (but still the same time for me!). I was prepared to let the ToT series go and have someone else GM the later, normal time, but for one no one stepped forward, and a number of people expressed their desire to have this earlier time. As I said on ICQ dago, I'm sorry that our times mean we both can't play.

Well, I think it is your right to shift hours of the game as you are somehow an owner of ToT mark and were a creator of this. I am upset that we will play 1492 scenario as it is not a good one to play Poland, beside I belive ToT advantage of other games where in the fact it was using ToT scenario not PE. I wanted to play ToT game with you using ToT scenario, and I belive others too, and I dont think that making a vote or a dice roll for the scenario was a good idea. I think it should be sticked to the game itself. So I propose we change the scenario to the one the game series was using before.

 

[Hive]

Hive,

Bah. This is completely different.

There was a Venice in that game.

Heh. Right. My bad.

This game will be fun to watch as a bystander... :rofl:

One moment, let me put you down for Austria.

I'm flattered, but I think I'll pass...

 

[King John]

Med, maybe you could consider a different country? Poland's longterm prospects aren't that great anyway. It looks like we still need a France and a Brandenburg.

 

[unmerged(23007)]

In fact Poland have better prospects then Brandy imho, of course if there is only one state here.

 

[unmerged(23007)]

I can revise playing as France howether. I never played this country in any longterm MP game so if Bocaj will prefer me in France i can play it. I dont have any special favorites countries (except Portugal maybe) so I can play anything.

 

[King John]

In fact Poland have better prospects then Brandy imho, of course if there is only one state here.

For the first century or so, sure. But Brand has more overall potential, having German culture and a better leaderfile. And it makes more sense historically, at least in the long run.

 

[unmerged(10894)]

Ok, I am becoming more convinced that it was a stupid idea that the scenario should've been chosen on as such. Since everyone pretty much was undecided on scenario, and the players that have been apart of the ToT series for longer pretty much all say 1453, I'll use my vote to make it the 1453 Scenario instead.

Since not everyone is happy with the original setup of nations, and that the scenario has actually been chosen for real, I suggest we do a powergamer's setup. It's perfect with 8 players. So everyone, it's first come, first serve.

England
France
Spain - I'm first!
Austria
OE
Russia
Sweden or Denmark
Brandenburg or Poland

 

[HolisticGod]

Boc,

Er, we did vote for 1492 and it appears only Med and Drake, who happened to vote for 1453, are complaining...

Regardless, though, I'll take the OE if we're doing a powergame setup. Venice otherwise.

 

[unmerged(10894)]

They do raise a valid point as the ToT series was designed to test my scenarios in long-term MP.

P.S. For a powergamer's scenario, Burgundy will be united with Austria, apart from Bourgogne.

 

[unmerged(23007)]

choosing between Brandy and Poland - I take Poland
I never played in MP thats why i am a bit direct here (although I promise to not become this what Sterk become :rofl: )

And about leaderfile....Polish leaderfile is twice as big as brandy one, , and brandy wont become prussia with Poland there, and despite they do not have 6/6/6 general in the nappy era they have genreals then of Sweden class so I belive it wont be bad.

 

[unmerged(10894)]

It doesn't matter so much anyway. With 40 generals being generated, that's an average of a general every 10 years or less.

 

[unmerged(23007)]

It doesn't matter so much anyway. With 40 generals being generated, that's an average of a general every 10 years or less.

True, Finally I will be able to create navy

 

[unmerged(10894)]

True, Finally I will be able to create navy

A naval Poland? Well... good luck with that.

 

[unmerged(18453)]

once again, me and Mulli share Muscowy/Russia

 

[unmerged(10915)]

Ayuh. Also, the discussion of the scenario. Obviously if the GM chooses the scenario, i wont complain. I believe i will have just as fun a game with 1453 and 1492. But make it final at least, so it will be possible to study the setup before session .

 

[unmerged(10894)]

It is final. I'll be doing some minor touchups for the scenario and will then be releasing v0.7 sometime tomorrow after documentation so everyone can work out their starting strategies or whatever else they might like to do.