Test Of Skill

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The vassal rule has been changed. It is now

2. Vassalship between humans.

a) As a vassal you are not allowed to use the public diplomatic actions (i.e. those that can be set to be seen by your master in the game log) in a way that contravenes the interest of your master (e.g. MA, embargoes, alliances, etc, etc), regardless if you are the sender or receiver of the diplomatic action; you may however talk as much as you want - you can thus plot vs him and reveal his plans etc - and you may do those actions that cannot be seen by your master, like giving or sending a state gift)

b) Both parties must protect and support eachother when attacked (as good as they can, this is arguably a questionable rule since it is impossible to define accurately)

c) The master may cancel the vassalship any time he wants but the vassal cannot do it until 20 years have passed (both can do it merely by cancelling it)

 

[Aladar]

Of course Aladar. That will cost you 1000d ducats in stategifts within 4 years from the start of the game

Can i pay those in Chill4

 

[unmerged(6147)]

Yeah, that would be a nice choice for you, in that inflated game

Anyway, I hope all have posted their auction bids or at least are busy doing them.

 

[unmerged(6147)]

I had forgotten to remove Karaman as selectable and forgot to delete their COT.

New save upladed.

 

[Adam B.]

Youre totally and utterly insane Daniel.

 

[unmerged(36826)]

Youre totally and utterly insane Daniel.

true as that is, what has he done now?

 

[Adam B.]

true as that is, what has he done now?

The crazyness at wich he does all this amazes me.

 

[unmerged(18425)]

One got the admit that he is trying to be one hell of a GM.

I got all auction bids. I send all bids to Daniel now to handle it.

 

[unmerged(6147)]

Good news: FAL reports that he has gotten a PM from all.

Bad news: he tells me ELio says he does not understand what to do so he has just sent the name of a nation he wants to play.

I have sent an ICQ to him asking him to make a bid for each nation.

I hope I hear from him shortly.

If I hear nothing from him before 22.00 he will get the last nation.

 

[King John]

Times up!

 

[Chaingun]

I will follow this with interest (didn't have time for another game myself). May best player win!

 

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I will follow this with interest (didn't have time for another game myself). May best player win!

I disagree, may absolut win

 

[unmerged(6147)]

These were the bids made in the auction.
For each player inflation is given first and then ducats.

                Adam  Absolut  John   ArchMede  Cicero   FJ       Lyko  Tonio   Daniel  Aladar
Albania          1    2 +11    1.11   16.1 +6   0.0 +0   4        20    1.0 +1  3.6 +8  4.90 +100
Armangnac        1    5 +51    0.001   4.2 +8   5.2 +13  2 +300   30    2.1 +5  1.1 +8  0.05 +1
Brabant          3    4 +31    0.002   0.1 +7   5.7 +13  1 +100   24    1.0 +2  1.4 +8  0.06 +1
Helvetia         2    1 +2     0.003   6.3 +9   0.0 +5   2         1    2.6 +0  1.4 +8  0.04 +1
Livonian Order   1    4 +31    0.004  20.1 +0   0.0 +3   4 +300    1.1  0.0 +1  5.6 +8  5.00 +100
Moldavia         1    2 +11    0.005  13.2 +12  0.0 +1   3         1.2  1.1 +1  5.4 +8  4.80 +100
Naples           1    5 +151   0.006   0.0 +10  0.0 +6   1 +200   10    0.0 +3  2.5 +8  0.02 +1
Portugal         1    8 +201   0.007   0.3 +3   0.0 +4   1 +300   11    0.0 +0  4.0 +8  4.70 +100
Saxony           1    3 +31    0.008   8.5 +11  0.0 +8   2 +200   15    4.1 +0  1.2 +8  0.03 +1
Scotland         2   20 +501   0.009   0.2 +7   0.0 +7   1 +400    1.3  0.0 +2  4.2 +8  2.00 +75
Skåne            2   15 +251   0 +1    0.0 +20  0.0 +2   3 +200    9    0.0 +4  3.2 +8  0.01 +1

Adam and FJ forgot to add ducats. FJ missed ducats for some. Daniel made two identical bids. John used more than one decimal for inflation and added ducats only for Skane. All his inflation will be rounded upwards. Aladar did not write them down in alphabetical order and used more than one decimal. Elio only said he wanted Saxony… Absolut, Archmede, Cicero and Tonio were perfect. Halleluja!

When we now proceed to distribute the nations we will start by looking for the highest bid remaining. Remember we delete all the bids made by them already having gotten their pick.

Highest bid made was by Lyko for Armagnac, 30%. Next highest for them was 5.2. Thus Lyko gets Armagnac for 5.3% inflation.
Next highest was ArchMede 20.1 for Livonian order. Next highest for them was 5.6. Thus he gets them for 5.7%
Then Absolut with 20% for Scotland. Next highest was 4.2. He gets them for 4.3.
Then Cicero 5.7 for Brabant. Next highest is 4. He gets it for 4.1.
Then Daniel 5.4 for Moldavia. Next highest 4.8. He gets it for 4.9.
Then Aladar 4.1 for Albania. Next highest 4. He gets it for 4.1.
Then Tonio 4.6 for Saxony. Next highest 2. he gets it for 2.1
Then FJ 3 for Skåne. Next highest 2. He gets it for 2.1.
Then Adam 2 for Helvetia. Next highest 0.1. He gets it for 0.2.
Then John 0.1 for Portugal. Next highest is Elio, counted as 0. He gets it for 0.1.
Elio gets Naples for 0.1.

Albania          Aladar   4.1%
Armagnac         Lyko     5.3%
Brabant          Cicero   4.1%
Helvetia         Adam     0.2%
Livonian Order   ArchMede 5.7%
Moldavia         Daniel   4.9%
Naples           Elio     0.1%
Portugal         John     0.1%
Saxony           Tonio    2.1%
Scotland         Absolut  4.3%
Skane            FJ       2.1%

One can say that Absolut, Archmede and Lyko were very lucky they did not select the same nations to make these huge bids. One can also wonder how different their estimations are.

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Now proceed with PMing your monarchs and DP slider moves according to post 6. FAL, I ask you to tell anyone not following these simple orders to rewrite his entire PM.

What you want is something like this

DP SLIDER: innovative +2, mercantilism -1

MONARCHS
And then 20 monarchs enumerated exactly as explained in post 6. I.e. when I get them I just need to edit it into the save.

 

[Fremen]

sorry for intervention... shouldn't Aladar have 4.1 for Albania?...

 

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Excellent. Why did you not join this game? You appear to have sharp eyes and a sharp mind Fremen

 

[TheArchMede]

Absolut, Archmede, Cicero and Tonio were perfect. Halleluja!

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One can say that Absolut, Archmede and Lyko were very lucky they did not select the same nations to make these huge bids. One can also wonder how different their estimations are.

Luck, that essential attribute for all great generals.

What are you up to Daniel? This post I am perfect and very lucky, previously you remarked on my intelligence. Are you trying to flatter me or is your judgement perfect?

 

[unmerged(49182)]

I disagree, may absolut win

I should add something in my signature, any idea what that might be Bob?

I can live with 4.3% inflation, although, for a package of cookies, can we make that 2% inflation Daniel?

This campaign will be very interesting, it starts this Thursday right, not next week..?

What are you up to Daniel? This post I am perfect and very lucky, previously you remarked on my intelligence. Are you trying to flatter me or is your judgement perfect?

I also found this rather confusing, but he should know better than to question my astonishing intelligence.

 

[TheArchMede]

I have been thinking about the end phase. Perhaps a little early but anyhow. Perhaps we should have some limitations on what you can do those last few years in the game.

One thing could be to forbid any DOWs after say 1814.

The advantages would be:

1. That there is a good chance all would reach their MP pool cap at the end of the game (we use the current MP pool as a power value, and not the MP pool cap and that is a problem as has been mentioned)

2. It would also perhaps eliminate all or at least much of the reduced tax value due to revolt risk from a long war.

Can you be more definite about this, because severe end-game restrictions will influence the choice of monarch for that time, which has to be done now.

 

[unmerged(6147)]

Yes I am sorry we did not bring this up before. But I do not want to decide such a thing on my own. We need more input from the players.

Let us say we give everyone a chance to say what they think before noon tomorrow. That will give you 6 hours to decide on the monarchs and DP sliders. We can also wait until 22.00 tomorrow evening with that since FAL is playing in Dbd until then.

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Absolut, we start on Thursday this week. For heaven's sake

 

[unmerged(6147)]

I had Portugal as one of my favourites. John got it for 0.1%. That's a bargain if ever there was one.