Terrorism

[Faiq Fataly]

add terrorism to covert actions. So we can do terror acts in enemy territories. Effects likely infulenza

 

[zocke1r]

Legitimacy/rep.tradition/devotion depends - among other things - on your perception as a ruler, who impersonates justice by divine right, or by constitutional provisions. Trying to murder someone secretly does not fit to this concept at all.

As of 1.14. your realtions with you allies depends on trust - how trustworthy is someone who secretly sends killers instead of challenging his opponents directly?

Mind, these penalties should strike for every attempt whre you geht caught. The chances of actually succeeding should in any case be extremely low. Using assassinations as anything else than a measure from outright desperation would imbalance the game to ridiculous amounts. You should not be able to see more than perhaps 10 assassinations in an entire campaign. How many rulers in this timeframe have really been murdered?

after doing a bit of reasearch, i came to these assassinations during the time frame of eu4 :

• India : 1
• Iran : 1
• Japan : 6
• Haiti : 1
• Burma : 2
• Mexico : 1
• France : 2
• Hungary : 1
• Italy : 1
• Netherlands : 1
• Ottoman Empire : 1
• Romania : 1
• Russia : 2
• Sweden : 2
• Great Britain : 2

Making it a grand total of 23 rulers killed during the time frame of EU4, so yeah its a rather rare occasion and i have to agree that sending killers after a ruler in the middle ages was not really seen as the correct thing to do and would have most likely lead to a lot negative consequences for the ruler who decided to take such actions

 

[DEEPGAME]

Terrorism was not a known concept until the 19th century, so no.

Terrorism is known in 12th century as well. Look Hashashins.

 

[elpibeuruguayo]

Terrorism is known in 12th century as well. Look Hashashins.

But it wasnt called Terrorism, and the Hashashins were practically hitmans not terrorists.

 

[gdj]

Yes, again, the main difference between terrorism and "classical" assassinations is the primary goal. Do you primarily want to get rid of a specific person, and do you want to cause a civilian panic? If the latter is the case, it´s terrorism and has no place in this timeframe, regardless of "side effects" classical assassinations of historical figures had.

Would anyone really want a EU4 game whre you can click "send terrorist to Constantinople" in the diplomacy window. Well, i wouldn´t want that. It´s not only anachronistic, it´s tasteless imho.

 

[DEEPGAME]

Yes, again, the main difference between terrorism and "classical" assassinations is the primary goal. Do you primarily want to get rid of a specific person, and do you want to cause a civilian panic? If the latter is the case, it´s terrorism and has no place in this timeframe, regardless of "side effects" classical assassinations of historical figures had.

Would anyone really want a EU4 game whre you can click "send terrorist to Constantinople" in the diplomacy window. Well, i wouldn´t want that. It´s not only anachronistic, it´s tasteless imho.

You touched a good point. As you can see hashashahins' goal was to create a panic inside Seljuk Empire. They tried to do sensational attacks. At result they were succesful.

In any aspect hashashins was the first terrorist organisation in known history. They were not just assasins but they were an organisation which has an idea.

 

[DEEPGAME]

But it wasnt called Terrorism, and the Hashashins were practically hitmans not terrorists.

They were not just hitmans. They were an organisation which has a political goal and idea. Their purpose was to create suitable athmosphere by making sensetional attacks.

 

[gdj]

In any aspect hashashins was the first terrorist organisation in known history. They were not just assasins but they were an organisation which has an idea.

Even if that is true - and it is a very modern interpretation of the Hashashin´s activity - it is still outiside EU4´s timeframe...

 

[Noel84]

after doing a bit of reasearch, i came to these assassinations during the time frame of eu4 :

• Japan : 6

and this is why EU4 needs ninjas.

 

[BrokenSky]

add terrorism to covert actions. So we can do terror acts in enemy territories. Effects likely infulenza

You mean like the gunpowder plot type thing?