Terra Incognita

[magnusvejby]

Hello just a minor suggestion I came to think about in my resent game as Venice, the thing is when i play as one of the North African states i can for some reason see China, but when i play as Venice its all terra incognita.

That seems rather strange to me since Marco Polo was in China 100 years before the start of EU4 and he was form Venice So my suggestion is remove some of the terra incognita in China for Venice and maybe other countries that did trade much on the silk road, and China. Because it makes no sense that some random North African country can see China but not Venice.

 

[Danfish77]

This is due to the way that tech groups share exploration. Muslim tech group knows about most of Asia, North African states by default are in the Muslim tech group, so they know about them, too. I don't see an issue.

Knowing ABOUT a country isn't the same thing as having detailed and accurate maps or being able to begin diplomatic relations with them, all of which terra incognita represents. As a player, you already know where China is; somewhere far to the east of Venice in Asia. Venetians of the time knew about the same. They didn't have nice, detailed maps, just a written travelogue.

Now, I'm not going to argue that the current system is 1:1 with reality, but I don't see why Venice or other Christian powers should know about China in 1444.

 

[Mattius]

Maybe you should just be able to see Beijing or something.

 

[magnusvejby]

Maybe you should just be able to see Beijing or something.

I was more thinking about the coast of India and China but the important Cities could also work. But i don't think Mzab or any other north African should be able to see China.

 

[Maq]

I was more thinking about the coast of India and China but the important Cities could also work. But i don't think Mzab or any other north African should be able to see China.

Muslim merchants visited China regularly, they knew the sea routes. Christians did not, though relatively small number of travellers did reach China or India. Marco Polo was about the only one who published his travels, but he was not the only one Christian who has ever been there.
Terra incognita is mainly based on technology group. It is not precise and sometimes disputable, sometimes surprising - like Mzab knowing the way to China - but I think it generally works well.