Hi, I'm playing as the Mongols in the 1220 start looking for the Khan of Khans achievement. I'm currently in 1230 and got all the five sites under my control. I have the option to reform but am quite undecided on which doctrines to choose.
Going through the wiki, here is some of my initial thoughts
Nature
None of them is much of a help, the peaceful bonuses are not helpful for nomads and takes out the option for great holywars, dogmatic seems just inferior to proselytizing without the religious tax (which nomads can't take advantage),
Cosmopolitan might be useful to gain foreign claims and play the marriage game. But not sure I'll have the intrigue to exploit that. So I'm thinking of taking proselytizing.
The doctorines are more undecided though, Stability seems a good 1st pick. The ability to increase my heir's attributes seem great. The short reign negator also seems great since I'm on my third ruler in 10 years and can't build a hospital.
Monastic seems like a good combo with that since you can just order you incompetent brothers/sons to take the vow. And the +2 to characters seems very good. (+5/+4 to the realm depending on your wife's religion). But since I get the bulk of my tech points from raiding, not sure how useful it is going to be.
Meritocracy for similar reasons. But not sure if that very useful. Actually, am looking at it mainly for the synergy with stability for better education. Has anyone tried it out? Is it the synergy any good?
Astrology also seems to have a synergy with stability as well. It gives the birth horoscopes. Plus does it only reid for your first born or all children? The ability to join the hermetics seem good, But I don't think most of my characters will be able to join this society without monastic and plus the warrior's lodge is alright.
Blood thirsty also seems like a good option. It will give me piety due to the massive amounts of prisoners. Seems like a fun choice, but useful is it really useful. How good are the bloodthirsty traits and related events?
Haruspicy seems useless on its own, but is it worth picking or its synergy with bloodthirsty over monastic?
Daring his just wasted on my vassals since they aren't capable of razing.
Eternal riders seem weak at first. Its weaker than the unreformed pagan bonuses and equal at best. However I notice that although unyielding is banned with unrelenting, it isn't banned on eternal riders. So if I pick Unyielding and Eternal Riders, will I get unyielding + unrelenting+polygamy or do I just get the benefits of polygamy from eternal Riders? The thing is unyielding and unrelenting both get rid of the unreformed bonus and don't worth picking on their own. But if I get the benefits of both they may just be. The home defence bonus would allow me to spread thin and raze more effectively.
The other useful synergy I see is the Dogmatic + divine marriage + temporal making me a divine God. But going temporal means I would get the threat from GHW, negating its use. Is being temporal God worth it though?
It would be great if someone could answer the questions. What would you pick? And am I missing something?
Going through the wiki, here is some of my initial thoughts
Nature
None of them is much of a help, the peaceful bonuses are not helpful for nomads and takes out the option for great holywars, dogmatic seems just inferior to proselytizing without the religious tax (which nomads can't take advantage),
Cosmopolitan might be useful to gain foreign claims and play the marriage game. But not sure I'll have the intrigue to exploit that. So I'm thinking of taking proselytizing.
The doctorines are more undecided though, Stability seems a good 1st pick. The ability to increase my heir's attributes seem great. The short reign negator also seems great since I'm on my third ruler in 10 years and can't build a hospital.
Monastic seems like a good combo with that since you can just order you incompetent brothers/sons to take the vow. And the +2 to characters seems very good. (+5/+4 to the realm depending on your wife's religion). But since I get the bulk of my tech points from raiding, not sure how useful it is going to be.
Meritocracy for similar reasons. But not sure if that very useful. Actually, am looking at it mainly for the synergy with stability for better education. Has anyone tried it out? Is it the synergy any good?
Astrology also seems to have a synergy with stability as well. It gives the birth horoscopes. Plus does it only reid for your first born or all children? The ability to join the hermetics seem good, But I don't think most of my characters will be able to join this society without monastic and plus the warrior's lodge is alright.
Blood thirsty also seems like a good option. It will give me piety due to the massive amounts of prisoners. Seems like a fun choice, but useful is it really useful. How good are the bloodthirsty traits and related events?
Haruspicy seems useless on its own, but is it worth picking or its synergy with bloodthirsty over monastic?
Daring his just wasted on my vassals since they aren't capable of razing.
Eternal riders seem weak at first. Its weaker than the unreformed pagan bonuses and equal at best. However I notice that although unyielding is banned with unrelenting, it isn't banned on eternal riders. So if I pick Unyielding and Eternal Riders, will I get unyielding + unrelenting+polygamy or do I just get the benefits of polygamy from eternal Riders? The thing is unyielding and unrelenting both get rid of the unreformed bonus and don't worth picking on their own. But if I get the benefits of both they may just be. The home defence bonus would allow me to spread thin and raze more effectively.
The other useful synergy I see is the Dogmatic + divine marriage + temporal making me a divine God. But going temporal means I would get the threat from GHW, negating its use. Is being temporal God worth it though?
It would be great if someone could answer the questions. What would you pick? And am I missing something?
