Temporary personal unions

[Mrkew]

In history, most personal/dynastic unions were short-lived, lasting decades at most. Why does EU4 display them as a permanent addition to your realm (as long as the opinion is positive, which is too easy to achieve)? At the very least, I think that aside from this system, there should be a much more common temporary personal union subject type, which always gets dissolved after the monarch's death, or at least spawning a large amount of pretender rebels upon their death.
The way they would happen is simple - Currently if a ruler dies issueless, the country they have a royal marriage with that has the most development has their dynasty put on the throne. I think there should be a chance to trigger this temporary PU instead.

 

[Nabroleon2022]

I think eu4 needs family trees like in ck3

 

[Metroidkirby]

I'm not sure about 'most'. Scotland and England are still together, same thing for France with Provence and Brittany, or Castile with Leon, Galicia and co. But there definitly was short-lives ones (Spain and Austria, the Netherlands and England, Saxony and Poland...).

I agree that 'opinion' isn't what's dissolving unions. It was mostly because of different succession laws in realms, and impossibility to rule everything from one place.

Perhaps tiyng 'permanent' PU on same culture group, and 'temporary' PU on foreign culture group could do the trick? It might be too much of a nerf though, but PU are way to strong as subjects.

 

[gigau]

to the Suggestions subforum.

 

[Eliseon]

In history, most personal/dynastic unions were short-lived, lasting decades at most. Why does EU4 display them as a permanent addition to your realm (as long as the opinion is positive, which is too easy to achieve)? At the very least, I think that aside from this system, there should be a much more common temporary personal union subject type, which always gets dissolved after the monarch's death, or at least spawning a large amount of pretender rebels upon their death.
The way they would happen is simple - Currently if a ruler dies issueless, the country they have a royal marriage with that has the most development has their dynasty put on the throne. I think there should be a chance to trigger this temporary PU instead.

having the union break with negative relations probably reflects that. Also monarchies without them are the weakest overall. PUs are hard to get anyway without missions or being Austria... dont give us more reasons to not go after them...