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More techs: Net-saw(submarines)

The net-saw was a saw-like thing mounted at the front of the submarine, the idea was that when caught in a submarine net, the submarine would move forwards and backwards to saw itself through the net. However there are almost no reports of such an operation beeing carried out effective.
 

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AFAIK, "Nation in arms" was the whole concept of conscription and getting the whole nation to pull together and help the armed forces. Maybe it should be the name for a gold tech?
 

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Gwalcmai said:
AFAIK, "Nation in arms" was the whole concept of conscription and getting the whole nation to pull together and help the armed forces. Maybe it should be the name for a gold tech?

If it is going to be a gold tech level, then it should require three or four tech levels especially w/regards to the people of a nation being galvanised into a state of war readiness. It is necessarily something that would be more deep rooted in a country's mentality than the occasional pre-war preparation. Therefore, the 'Nation in Arms' gold tech should be the first level and should include concepts that would already be known to the major powers.

So then - what do you have in mind? :)
 

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The concept of "the nation in arms" was invented on 23 August 1793 (Year 2) by revolutionary France.

Convention Nationale de la République Française said:
All French citizens are subject to permanent requisition to the armed forces. Young men will be sent on active service; married men will make weapons and transport supplies. Women will make tents and uniforms and work in the hospitals. Children will tear up old linen for bandages. Old people will be taken to public places to stir up the courage of the combatants, hatred for kings, and republican unity.
 

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Zuckergußgebäck said:
Women at war?

I know one laundry lady who got to the front dressed in the kilt of a highlander, but otherwise, no women(?)

Why no women? Women were important in the manufacture of ammunition in Great Britain, at least. :)
 

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Then 'Women at war' as a technological advance deals with the very concept of the fairer sex contributing to the national effort in a time of war. The later tech advances such as those that you mention can have the 'women at war' advance as a pre-requisite.
 

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Doesn't sound very historical, though. Women's role in the Nation at Arms was to knit scarves for the troops and wave them goodbye as they marched away, not anything more concrete. The concept of actually allowing women to help the war effort in a constructive way came later.

I'd replace Women at War with Conscription System. :D
 

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StephenT said:
Doesn't sound very historical, though. Women's role in the Nation at Arms was to knit scarves for the troops and wave them goodbye as they marched away, not anything more concrete. The concept of actually allowing women to help the war effort in a constructive way came later.

I'd replace Women at War with Conscription System. :D

Knitting scarves sounds good enough for me. However, as it does sound a little specific I think it could be replaced with 'Popular Mobilisation' so it leaves the advance vague and open to interpretation. Therefore it becomes whatever you want it to be.

Conscription System could probably go alongside that. Although Britain and the US didn't have conscription, they certainly had the means to do so. :)
 

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That just means they shouldn't have that particular tech. I think we should have it in.
 

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A conscription tech. I like the idea of a conscription tech. :)
 

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The anti-tank rifle should have a pre-requisite of the rifle-grenade, not the breech loading rifle.
 

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The portable pontoon bridge, and the tech modern hand-to-hand training should be under the Modern Army Innovations, not the Anti-Tank field. Yes it will make the Anti-tank field smaller, but since tanks are so new the ways to repulse them should be small.
 

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Germany should have blasting Gelatin, else how would they be able to have smokeless gun powder. They should also have the Field Telephone set , or loose the techs: army telephone system, signal security, basic fire control systems, General Staff, etc..

Since Motor Transportation requires Germany to have Gas Massproduction tech in the industy field. They should either have the latter tech, or lose the former. Or we could have an intermediate tech, like small refineries that satisfy the early motor transportation, and then is a pre-requisite for gas massproduction (which could be moved down in the tech tree by one gold level).

They should also have bakelite (industry) to make it feasible for them to have the telephone tech, basic ground/naval wireless(electronics) [naval wireless also requires Dynamo, which Germany does not have.].

Germany should have steel alloy (industry), before they can have Krupp naval armor.

How can they have Naval Harvey Steel (naval) without having the Stainless steel tech (industry)?

Should they have the Superdreadnaught tech without having the naval gun 14" tech also?

Germany has the 200mm+ siege artillery, but that requires the 200m+ howitzer. I would like to see this first siege artillery have a different requirement, perhaps the 70mm+ field artillery. Then have the next siege artillery (250m+) require the 200m+ siege artillery, and the 200m+ howitzer.

Should Germany have Defense in Depth (Ground Doctines) if they don't have the Corps telephone system?
 
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The naval petrol torpedo should perhaps be the pre-requisite for the subs version instead of the other way around. Else Germany should lose the naval tech, for lack of having the pre-requisites.
 

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The steel cable tech that is a pre-requisite for barrage ballon confuses me a bit. Take the case of Germany, they have many techs that require the barrage ballon prototype test, but do not have the tech pre-requiste for those techs.