Tech Groups

[unmerged(53166)]

OK....I've tried really hard to find any sort of information on Tech Groups but I can't find anything.

Does anyone have information about the differences between the Latin, Orthodox (does this exist?), Moslem, etc. tech groups? I hear a lot of people talk about it (and certain event effects in the game changes your Tech group) but I really have no idea what any of this means.

Thanks in advance.

 

[labalag]

Well AFAIK there are 5 techgroups: Latin, Orthodox, Muslim, Chinese and excotic, all it changes are your techcosts. (Check this thread

 

[unmerged(53166)]

OK thanks - I read part of that just now but I'll have to read the rest later.

I wonder why Paradox never came out with a manual that explains all of these formulas? Why leave it up to us?

I guess since the game is constantly changing that would be too hard to do though.

 

[knul]

I wonder why Paradox never came out with a manual that explains all of these formulas? Why leave it up to us?

I guess since the game is constantly changing that would be too hard to do though.

I don't know, but I had/have a similar feeling. For example, combat isn't explained, as is CRT (Combat Resolution Table IIRC). You get a tooltip that Land level 9 gives "improved CRT". How am I supposed to know what that means? Only after reading the Battle System faq here on the forum do I have a bit of an idea how things work combat-wise. It is a weak point of a otherwise fine product.

 

[Duke of Wellington]

Much of what is in the manual is incorrect now after so many patches anyway. Not that it was correct in the first place in some cases.

 

[unmerged(18148)]

We (or at least, I) need a trigger condition regarding techgroups.

 

[DSYoungEsq]

I will make two comments:

1. The manual, as an explanation of game mechanics, is essentially useless, and was even for version 1.00 (too many errors to be reliable).

2. There is a whole forum of Frequently Asked Questions threads, wherein most of your answers have been patiently answered by the many very dedicated volunteers of this Message Board over the course of the last four years.


You all might want to check that out some time. :wacko:


(PS: It includes a detailed explanation of the combat system AND a VERY detailed explanation of all things economic in the game)

 

[unmerged(53166)]

I'm sorry DS but I literally spent an hour on the FAQ forum trying to find info about Tech Groups.

I apologize

 

[ForzaA]

I wonder why Paradox never came out with a manual that explains all of these formulas? Why leave it up to us?

Because we're not "supposed" to be playing to these formulas, but rather see these formulas as a means of getting a game with a historical "feel" ?

There's plenty of games (RTS, FPS) where you, for example, don't get to see the exact hit calculations (damage done, damage absorbed by armor, etc.) -- which is probably governed by formulas as well.

 

[DSYoungEsq]

I'm sorry DS but I literally spent an hour on the FAQ forum trying to find info about Tech Groups.

I apologize

You need to read the [thread=157925]Economy FAQ[/thread] carefully, especially at section 4.5.


The [thread=172908]Diplomacy FAQ[/thread] is another very important thread. I'd say most questions can be answered by one or the other of these two threads. I don't know how many times I've answered questions about diplo-annexation that can be answered simply by reading what lawkeeper wrote in that FAQ.

 

[Ericus1]

In nine posts, none of you actually just answered his question.

Techgroup; Base tech Cost
Latin; 100%
Orthodox (tOrthodox in events); 110%
Muslim; 120%
Chinese; 140%
Exotic; 190%

So Latins pay the normal cost and exotics pay about double. Granted the FAQ has ALL KINDS of nifty formulas and specifics about religion modifiers, effects of empire size, isolation penalties, etc, so it's great and all, but there's the basic answer.

 

[DSYoungEsq]

In nine posts, none of you actually just answered his question.

Techgroup; Base tech Cost
Latin; 100%
Orthodox (tOrthodox in events); 110%
Muslim; 120%
Chinese; 140%
Exotic; 190%

So Latins pay the normal cost and exotics pay about double. Granted the FAQ has ALL KINDS of nifty formulas and specifics about religion modifiers, effects of empire size, isolation penalties, etc, so it's great and all, but there's the basic answer.

Ericus, if he always gets such questions answered in the forum like this, what is the point to a FAQ area? :wacko:

 

[unmerged(15337)]

Also, all these costs keep changing with each version of the game. By this time I don't remember the exact numbers, just the ordering from best to worst and which nations generally are in which group.

 

[Ericus1]

Ericus, if he always gets such questions answered in the forum like this, what is the point to a FAQ area? :wacko:

Detailed, thorough analysis of game mechanics for someone who doesn't want a simple answer.