Teaser #6 - 16th of May 2018
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Stopt teasing us this much... please...
Is it clear that by tomorrow we can confirm whether the new title is VIC III or Paradox ROMA? certainly????
Is it clear that by tomorrow we can confirm whether the new title is VIC III or Paradox ROMA? certainly????
I wouldn't read it as "not that important". Religion wasn't a huge part of EU:Rome, either. Mainly you just tried to remember to do the yearly sacrifice and to culture-flip other provinces.
You've got to pay close attention to the wording.
"but not the most important aspect."
Could suggest anyhanyt - even that religion is the second/third or fourtb important aspect (as it is many paradox games after warfare). As a result - it's essentially a meaningless hint - except that religion is in the name, and there's at least one thing more important than it.
"but not the most important aspect."
Could suggest anyhanyt - even that religion is the second/third or fourtb important aspect (as it is many paradox games after warfare). As a result - it's essentially a meaningless hint - except that religion is in the name, and there's at least one thing more important than it.
Why Paradox insists that it's not Victoria, but Johan always teases things which are the characteristics of VIctoria II?
Because he wants to rise our hopes to torture us.
And when Vic 3 will be ashes, we will have his permission to die.
Roma confirmed(?) XD
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In my Opinion the game - if it really is a game about the roman republic - will be called "Roma". "Rome" is not as easy to pronounce.
I tried to think about period, when religion didn't play important role, and failed. Stone Age? Close future? I'm lack of ideas. It will be hard to depict Cold War without Middle East stuff, and I can't imagine a Middle East stuff without detailed religion situation. Also, we mustn't forget about socialistic countries, fighting with the religion. And we are absolutely sure, that it isn't Vicky 3. Any suggestions?
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That`s the joke... to make ambiguous teasers that could be for Victoria but it isn't.Why Paradox insists that it's not Victoria, but Johan always teases things which are the characteristics of VIctoria II?
Guys... Johan did'n say religion is irrelevant... only that it isn't the most important aspect.
It fits with Rome and Victoria. Roman times was pretty tolerant of others religions. The state had on official religion, yes... but it didn't matter what the citizens believed. Just like in the victorian age.
The teasers are purposely crafted to be able to be about Rome and Victoria.
It fits with Rome and Victoria. Roman times was pretty tolerant of others religions. The state had on official religion, yes... but it didn't matter what the citizens believed. Just like in the victorian age.
The teasers are purposely crafted to be able to be about Rome and Victoria.
Eh, kind of. Rome was very tolerant of other polytheistic religions, because they believed they were worshipping the same gods under different names (an idea called "interpretatio romana" and which Pliny described as "nomina alia aliis gentibus" -- "different names to different peoples"). They hated Judaism and Christianity because Jews and Christians refused to worship their gods in any form. It took a Christian Roman Emperor to change that.
Sounds pretty good. In antiquity culture was a more important aspect then relgion I'd say. Cultural minories ruled large empires with countless hords of unwashed barbarians. Both the Romans but also Parthians and Greeks in the middle east where pretty easy going with including foreign gods in their pantheon and allowing people to practise whatever religion they want.
All in all I'd say the hints fit both Victoria and Antiquity but with Victoria being denounced explicitely multiple times I'm feeling pretty good about thin anouncement!
All in all I'd say the hints fit both Victoria and Antiquity but with Victoria being denounced explicitely multiple times I'm feeling pretty good about thin anouncement!
Well, religion used to be science/knowledge in the past and those terms got separated when monotheistic non-gentile religions took over. Religion was seen as a national identity story in the process and later on it was just devoured by the new Churches.
Saying that religion was important in antiquity or in Roman Empire times is accurate, but confusing this with the religion that had too much power and importance in the Dark Ages and the Medieval era is inaccurate. Religion was pretty much the school system of the past and this started changing centuries later with guys like Plato and Aristotle who were caught up 200-300 years later. Pythagoras for example and his school was probably considered the greatest "university" of ancient times, yet a millennium later they started calling it a cult.
I'm guessing if this is Rome or another ancient game, you will have some benefits for choosing a patron god or whatever, but religion won't affect your relations with others probably. Though it could add something extra, with Poseidon vs Athena like the story of Athens
And they are not saying religion will not be important. It just won't be the most important.
Saying that religion was important in antiquity or in Roman Empire times is accurate, but confusing this with the religion that had too much power and importance in the Dark Ages and the Medieval era is inaccurate. Religion was pretty much the school system of the past and this started changing centuries later with guys like Plato and Aristotle who were caught up 200-300 years later. Pythagoras for example and his school was probably considered the greatest "university" of ancient times, yet a millennium later they started calling it a cult.
I'm guessing if this is Rome or another ancient game, you will have some benefits for choosing a patron god or whatever, but religion won't affect your relations with others probably. Though it could add something extra, with Poseidon vs Athena like the story of Athens
And they are not saying religion will not be important. It just won't be the most important.
Yeah, this was the "except monotheism" bit I was talking about - worship of the Emperor became a big thing in terms of solidifying the Empire's identity and justifying its conquests, so refusal to do that was a big deal.Tell it to this guys
Not only that but 'foreign' gods often did just get added to the fold - Mithras, for example.
Tell it to this guys
True of course but I feel most people on this forum feel that a Rome game would mostly feature the republican era ending well before christianity and it's prosecution became a major feature in world politics.
It was always important in personal life, no matter where and when you went. However, in political life it did not matter until the Imperial Period, and a Rome 2 is extremely unlikely to have any major features concerning religion (unless the timeline gets extended to Imperial Period, but that is more likely to be a DLC). Even the first game did not have anything noteworthy for the same reason.