Teaser #3 - 13th of May 2018

[Captain Frakas]

I hope a Rome game where you play one state's faction rather than state, character or dynasty...
or, if not Rome, a Victoria III with a bit expended time frame (say... 1783-1920) so it would include the French Grand Revolution.

 

[KeiserWiliem]

An ancient game like Rome 2 would be nice but I don't think that's what we get.

My theory is that it is going to be a SciFi game closing the gap between today and Stellaris. Starting in 2050 and ending in 2200. Game might be simulated in 1/4 or 1/2 days not 1/24 days, like in HoI4.
You will be playing on Earth and the Sol System only. You can switch between Planet and System view, Most important things will take place on Earth and planets like Mars and Venus.
Provinces on Earth will have minorities and dealing with them will be a bigger part than in older Paradox games.
The combat might have similarities with HoI4. Maybe there will be Space combat.
The game will end with the discovery of FTL.

Other theory is that it's going to be something between HoI4 and the near future.

 

[gato tecleador]

I believe that we will have Victoria III in 2019 because it will be 200 years since queen victoria was born and she was born in may.

 

[Denkt]

There will be minorities.

Johan Andersson is the gamedirector and designer of this game.

Is it popular demand?

It do sound like some sort of game in which internal politics is going to be important which it have been in both Rome and Victoria but that don't mean it is going to one of thouse. If we look at the game director list below, we see that King who have been involved in Victoria is working on a secret Project and so is Doomdark. Either Johan is working on a third secret Project or have replaced either King or Doomdark as game director. It is also possible that Johan is considered game director for all Projects but that would not make the hint and hint.

We know from the paradoxcon video that Doomdark is still game director so that could mean Johan have taken over King's Project but Im not sure about that and the same video Point against a Victoria release but Maybe they are saying it is not going to be named Victoria but something else.

Our game-director team these days include the following people.

Chris ‘King’ King - Secret Project
Dan ‘podcat’ Lind - Hearts of Iron IV.
Henrik ‘Doomdark’ Fåhraeus - Crusader Kings 2 & Secret Project
Jake ‘DDRJake’ Leiper-Ritchie - Europa Universalis IV
Martin ‘Wiz’ Anward - Stellaris

So some us Game Directors

King seems to still be a game director so I suspect Johan is working on a secret Project not mentioned in the list above.
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[kis12134]

My money's on Victoria III or a cold war/modern era game

 

[China is OP]

There were several events in Victoria 2 with the word "will" in them. Vicky 3 confirmed?

 

[henzington]

It do sound like some sort of game in which internal politics is going to be important which it have been in both Rome and Victoria but that don't mean it is going to one of thouse. If we look at the game director list below, we see that King who have been involved in Victoria is working on a secret Project and so is Doomdark. Either Johan is working on a third secret Project or have replaced either King or Doomdark as game director. It is also possible that Johan is considered game director for all Projects but that would not make the hint and hint.

We know from the paradoxcon video that Doomdark is still game director so that could mean Johan have taken over King's Project but Im not sure about that and the same video Point against a Victoria release but Maybe they are saying it is not going to be named Victoria but something else.

King seems to still be a game director so I suspect Johan is working on a secret Project not mentioned in the list above.
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Martin took over Stellaris so the same could be the case

 

[Denkt]

Martin took over Stellaris so the same could be the case

I've been with this project from day #1

In such case would it be Doomdark's Project as King is still a game director. But Doomdark was game director just a few month Before and would it not make sense to keep Doomdark as game director to the release of the game?

I suspect King's Project is Victoria III or something like that which may indicate it is not going to be Victoria 3. Doomdark's Project, if it started after Stellaris should be around 2 years old when shown at Paradoxcon but Maybe even older than that.

I think all Victoria games was designed by King and was unique in that regard as all other games was designed by Johan (pre CKII), I think so when Johan say he have designed the game I would doubt it is going to be Victoria, especially since we know King is still around.

As you may have noticed, my name is absent from that list, as I now work with leading and supporting all our game directors equally.

That's a pretty useful teaser I guess. I think it rules out any other thing then a GSG. I'd say both a Rome game or Vicky 3 would work for a GSG with minorities being involved in a gameplay mechanic

I think it have been said somewhere that the game paradox is to show on paradoxcon was a grand strategy game.

 

[Dsingis]

It.. it can't be Victoria 3. Except if alle the "we are currently not working on Vicy 3" were intentionally misleading.

Edit: Why the downvotes? CEO Fred Wester himself said in one of last year's quarterly reports, that they are currently not working on Victoria 3.
Just because you don't like that doesn't mean I'm lying to you.

 

[Denkt]

It.. it can't be Victoria 3. Except if alle the "we are currently not working on Vicy 3" were intentionally misleading.

Im pretty sure they are working on Victoria III but also rather sure it is not going to be released this year. This because of King's Project which is very strongly suspect is Victoria III but they have said that Victoria fans are going to be disappointed at Paradoxcon.

The hints to me Point as much if not even more towards Rome or even something new as I don't think Johan have ever been that strongly involved in the Victoria series, although I could be wrong about that.

 

[BlackPrince]

Minorities?

(Kevin Spacey heavy breathing)

 

[vegomania]

You're playing with fire Mr. Gamedirector sir...

 

[Plastic_Duke]

The hints to me Point as much if not even more towards Rome or even something new as I don't think Johan have ever been that strongly involved in the Victoria series, although I could be wrong about that.

Wrong you are, indeed. I read somewhere Johan himself specifically stating that he was responsible for most of the code behind Vic2 POP system. Considering that POP is pretty much the core of the game, it's fair to say that he was involved enough in the project. Moreover, when he says "I've been with this project from day #1", that doesn't really say anything since he is the global mastermind behind all Paradox's projects. Of course he's supervising everything that's made in the studio from the very start to the very end. At least I wouldn't expect less from him.

He also once stated that he would like to "kill the global market with a sharp axe". So, for good or ill, he definitely has a specific point of view about designing the next Victoria installment.

As for gathering all the hints so far, to be fair, the vocabulary used for the first and third teasers really points toward Victoria more than anything else, while the actual meaning of the words employed could just as much points toward Rome 2. "Popular demand", while obviously refering to POPs and a very famous Vic2 mod, also reminds me of a very famous quote from random roman source that I know only in french : "Que demande le peuple ? Du pain et des jeux." (What does the people demand ? Bread and games). "Minorities" could also refer to the persecution of Christians under roman law, for example.

The main point of contention to me is the fact that Johan is considered game director and designer on this project. I would have expected King to be THE game director on a sequel to Victoria. And we all know he is game director at Paradox studio currently.

So... Right now, as others have thought before me, I'm actually figuring a reboot of the Victoria franchise, with a different name, and a bit different scope. I don't think Victoria is that popular outside of die-hard PDX fans anyway, and all of them will know about this new game whatever its name and theme. So maybe the marketing department has come with an evil plan to conquer new markets after all...

 

[fabius]

An ancient game like Rome 2 would be nice but I don't think that's what we get.

My theory is that it is going to be a SciFi game closing the gap between today and Stellaris. Starting in 2050 and ending in 2200. Game might be simulated in 1/4 or 1/2 days not 1/24 days, like in HoI4.
You will be playing on Earth and the Sol System only. You can switch between Planet and System view, Most important things will take place on Earth and planets like Mars and Venus.
Provinces on Earth will have minorities and dealing with them will be a bigger part than in older Paradox games.
The combat might have similarities with HoI4. Maybe there will be Space combat.
The game will end with the discovery of FTL.

Other theory is that it's going to be something between HoI4 and the near future.

Think something like this or a near dystopian future is a possibility.

 

[Black Turtle]

Immigration Simulator

would be the bomb.

 

[Severvus_septim]

There are many cultural minorities in Victoria 2, although political minorities can exist in the Roman Senate as well. Religious minorities could fit into both.

Same way it may be something Cold War based with cultural, ethnical, political etc. minorities, or something phantasy based with same minorities list =)

 

[Denkt]

So... Right now, as others have thought before me, I'm actually figuring a reboot of the Victoria franchise, with a different name, and a bit different scope. I don't think Victoria is that popular outside of die-hards PDX fans anyway, and all of them will know about this new game whatever its name and theme. So maybe the marketing department has come with an evil plan to conquer new markets after all...

I have doubts about this, consider that CK was probably even less known than the Victoria series and still they considered using the same name for CKII. It is true that Victoria III is going to be radical different from Victoria II and Victoria but Im not sure they have much to gain from replacing the name of the series.

As for gathering all the hints so far, to be fair, the vocabulary used for the first and third teasers really points toward Victoria more than anything else, while the actual meaning of the words employed could just as much points toward Rome 2. "Popular demand", while obviously refering to POPs and a very famous Vic2 mod, also reminds me of a very famous quote from random roman source that I know only in french : "Que demande le peuple ? Du pain et des jeux." (What does the people demand ? Bread and games). "Minorities" could also refer to the persecution of Christians under roman law, for example.

The whole difficulty with the hints are that they are broad enough to work well with both Rome and Victoria as well as other potential games. Is it popular demand? is actually a question, like if they as if this is the game that have been asked which to me Victoria seems to be the most asked for but Rome is also something that have been asked for a very long time. Yes it could hint to pop demand mod which in turn hini to Victoria. Both Rome and Victoria have internal politic system which the hint could also hint towards. The problem with the question is that it don't necessarily need to be the most asked for game so both Rome and Victoria have a good chance here.

The third hint could hint towards any sorts of minorties and the game may very well have several sorts of minorties which would be more like Victoria than Rome as you don't only have all the political minorites but also all the pops, however what a potential Rome II would be is something that is Little know other than it is probably going to be rather different from EU: Rome so Maybe it have alot of different minorities as well?

Think something like this or a near dystopian future is a possibility.

That may be a possibility but how do you consider hint number one?

 

[Henry Tudor]

It still leaves the possibility of it being Cold War, Vicky 3 or Rome. At this point, Vicky 3 is the least likely. Yes in theory both Johan and King could design Vicky 3 as that's what happened with Vicky 2 but imo I think it's solely Chris King who is working on Vicky 3 unless it's Paradox trying to throw us off the scent by giving a teaser of just one designer when it could be a multi designer project, in which case, VICKY 3 CONFIRMED!

 

[Denkt]

It still leaves the possibility of it being Cold War, Vicky 3 or Rome. At this point, Vicky 3 is the least likely. Yes in theory both Johan and King could design Vicky 3 as that's what happened with Vicky 2 but imo I think it's solely Chris King who is working on Vicky 3 unless it's Paradox trying to throw us off the scent by giving a teaser of just one designer when it could be a multi designer project, in which case, VICKY 3 CONFIRMED!

In the paradoxcon video we saw Johan and Doomdark which could hint that it is Doomdark's Project that is going to be the one released soon, not the one King have been working on. In the same video they said that Victoria fans is going to be disappointed which Points against the release of Victoria III. Sure they could change the name or so but they don't have much reason to do so.

They have not said it is going to be an new IP or an old one so that is something to see.

 

[Augustus93]

They trolled the Rome 2 fans for years with their Rome 2 shirts. Do anyone actually expect them to say: "Victoria 2 fans will not be disappointed"? That will not happen, if they did then that would essentially be an announcement by itself.