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Dietmar1982

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In my most recent game I noticed something, that I couldn't understand.

Tax doesn't seem to effect militancy, no matter what i'm taxing my people it allways say 0.00

why is this, do any of you know.
Is it because my consciousness or plurality is to low?
 

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This is the part where I stop asking questions and start counting my blessings, especially if I'm trying to increase the treasury. ;)

(Means, I don't know)
 

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Its supposed to effect militancy in the good way under 33% and in the bad way over 33%.

Your scenario may be because of low consciousness or plurality I'm not sure.
 

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I think there may be a connection with plurality for taxes >33%, but not with tax rates below 33%.

The important thing to know is that low taxes are a way to further decrease militancy that derives from POP positions on social reforms.
 

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I recently noticed that if you tax your POPs too much they actually start starving to death. First time I ever had negative pop growth! That's what I love about this game. Just when you think you have 100% grasp of the game mechanics they just keep amazing you (although this was granted, not a very big thing)
 

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Dysken said:
I recently noticed that if you tax your POPs too much they actually start starving to death. First time I ever had negative pop growth!

Yep, if your POPs can not get any life needs, the upper classes will devolve to lower classes, and the lower classes slowly starve and disappear.
 

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OHgamer said:
I think there may be a connection with plurality for taxes >33%, but not with tax rates below 33%.

The important thing to know is that low taxes are a way to further decrease militancy that derives from POP positions on social reforms.

I just loaded a couple of different games, to see how things where working there.

In all games taxes below 33 decreased militancy.
But also in all games taxes, bove did nothing.

one of the games was as austria in 1895 with a plurality of 89, so something seems fishy here.
Any explanations?

Dysken said:
I recently noticed that if you tax your POPs too much they actually start starving to death. First time I ever had negative pop growth! That's what I love about this game. Just when you think you have 100% grasp of the game mechanics they just keep amazing you (although this was granted, not a very big thing)

I also didn't know this until recently.
While i was testing the new POP splitter tool, i noticed the POP were decreasing in size, at first I thought i was something I did. :eek:

But i soon realized what the cause of it was.
 

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Dietmar1982 said:
I also didn't know this until recently.
While i was testing the new POP splitter tool, i noticed the POP were decreasing in size, at first I thought i was something I did. :eek:

But i soon realized what the cause of it was.

I was playing as Siam. By keeping taxes high I unintentionally managed to commit genocide on the laotians, Vietnamese, Khmers, Malayans etc. Since they only get half of the income the Thais do. My Thais on the other hand were able to hold on to their earnings somewhat, sometimes even buying some clothes for themselves. While the national minorities starved to death under the yoke of Victorias Socialist system.
 

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Dietmar1982 said:
one of the games was as austria in 1895 with a plurality of 89, so something seems fishy here.
Any explanations?

Actually I'm mistaken - taxes >33% do not raise militancy, never have. They do however raise consciousness, which of course is vital for trying to control the politcal system. Consciousness increases loyalty to an ideology, and if those ideologies are not in power and lose elections, POPs will grow restive.

The main drivers of militancy are the social and political reforms which increase in impact as plurality rises. To balance this, low taxes and the ability of POPs to get their needs help to balance out the generally militancy-increasing affects of lack of social and political reforms. So indirectly, taxes do affect militancy by acting as a deflator if you keep them low enough, while making consciousness rise and thus increasing the support for parties other than the conservative or liberal that most nations start with. If you keep taxes high, you have nothing to counteract the increases in MIL caused by lack of reforms, and consciousness will rise more rapidly turning POPs into hardened supporters of potentially radical ideologies.