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That's a cool tree, you did a good job. I prefer "fantasy tanks" as well as a placeholder. Presumably we'll be modifying the characteristics of our tanks just like in previous HoI, so graphical representations of tanks won't be accurate in any case.

I hope that Poland has at least the opportunity to build an equivalent to the Maus.
 
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Thanks for the kind words and info about the swedish tanks!

Here's a little something before I go to bed :)
krnilGl.jpg
 

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Thanks for the kind words and info about the swedish tanks!

Here's a little something before I go to bed :)
krnilGl.jpg

Nice!!!

Really nice!
 

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New Swedish tank done

Hope you guys like it :)

Light Armour 1934; Landsverk L-100
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Update Swedish tank tree 0.3

New tank; 1945 KRV (Kranvagn) Sweden's ultimate tank
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Still not 100% sure if I'm going to use it, but for now it's a good placeholder
 

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Update Swedish tank tree 0.3

New tank; 1945 KRV (Kranvagn) Sweden's ultimate tank
PNh1zKM.jpg


Still not 100% sure if I'm going to use it, but for now it's a good placeholder

Nice pictures. I was thinking of one thing. Stridsvagn 74 was not introduced until 1958, but it was basically a Stridsvagn m/42 chassis with a new turret and a high velocity 75mm gun being mounted rather then scrapping them. It could work as the 1943 medium, being sort of Panther equal and not outside the realm of possibility for Sweden to produce in the time period. If Sweden really would have needed to produce a more heavily armed tank during ww2, that is probably pretty close to what would have been the result, since Landsverk was just upgrading the same concept over and over anyway. M/42 was an upgraded Lago (the Hungarian order) which was an upgraded M/40 which in turn was an upgraded L-60. So Stridsvagn 74 was the final tank in the Landsverk line. Then you could move all the mediums back one step and have a full medium tree. It was clearly seen as inferior to the Centurion tanks that Sweden bought canceling the KRV project, so it was not seen as modern at the time.

The Stridsvagn 74's development path stretches through the Stridsvagn m/40 and m/42 to the original 16,257 kg/16-ton Lago tank, manufactured by the Swedish firm Landsverk for the Hungarian Army.[1] The 74 was therefore in essence a modernized version of the World War II M/42 tank which was itself an attempt to bring Swedish-produced tanks up to the standard of the rest of war-torn Europe


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stridsvagn_74
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Alternatively you could use Stridsvagn 74 as the 1945 tank and KRV as a heavy. What I like about it is the direct lineage to the rest of the Landsverk tanks.

edit 2

Also, the gun was an old AA-gun in use from the late 30's so the only new thing was the turret.
 
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Loving the M47 feel on that Swedish tank. The olive green is kinda cartoony though, they'd look great in winter/arctic forest camo
I can see what you mean with the colors, they can seem a bit too saturated, I might figure out a new base color for the swedish tanks.
I'm trying to have a unique base color for each nation so I might not add any camouflage ( but who knows )

Nice pictures. I was thinking of one thing. Stridsvagn 74 was not introduced until 1958, but it was basically a Stridsvagn m/42 chassis with a new turret and a high velocity 75mm gun being mounted rather then scrapping them. It could work as the 1943 medium, being sort of Panther equal and not outside the realm of possibility for Sweden to produce in the time period. If Sweden really would have needed to produce a more heavily armed tank during ww2, that is probably pretty close to what would have been the result, since Landsverk was just upgrading the same concept over and over anyway. M/42 was an upgraded Lago (the Hungarian order) which was an upgraded M/40 which in turn was an upgraded L-60. So Stridsvagn 74 was the final tank in the Landsverk line. Then you could move all the mediums back one step and have a full medium tree. It was clearly seen as inferior to the Centurion tanks that Sweden bought canceling the KRV project, so it was not seen as modern at the time.

Alternatively you could use Stridsvagn 74 as the 1945 tank and KRV as a heavy. What I like about it is the direct lineage to the rest of the Landsverk tanks.

Again thanks for the infomation. I'll look more into this tomorrow, but first I'll have the Stridsvagn m/31 and the Stridsvagn L-60 done.
 

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I can see what you mean with the colors, they can seem a bit too saturated, I might figure out a new base color for the swedish tanks.
I'm trying to have a unique base color for each nation so I might not add any camouflage ( but who knows )



Again thanks for the infomation. I'll look more into this tomorrow, but first I'll have the Stridsvagn m/31 and the Stridsvagn L-60 done.

Cool, looking forward to see how they turn out.
 

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Alternatively you could use Stridsvagn 74 as the 1945 tank and KRV as a heavy. What I like about it is the direct lineage to the rest of the Landsverk tanks.

I think this is a good idea!

The m/42 should probably be the 1941 model (same as Pz IV).
It is definately not an eqvivalent to the Panther tank.

Don't know what model to use as the 1939 medium - perhaps one of the heavier light tank models?

For 1943 medium the "Strv Lansen" could be used.
 

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I'd much rather have a "plausible" fantasy silhouette than an obsolete real design continue to show up 4 tech levels up (or down) the chart. In my last HOI3 game, I had pumped research into Hungary's aircraft industry, instead of its meager armor program, and just licensed German tank designs. In 1943, my latest and fairly modern INT (one tech level behind cutting edge) were fighting on roughly equal terms against Soviet and UK planes, but were still showing up as Freccia biplanes because there was no "newer" artwork. Immersion-breaking.

So a single giant airplane/soldier/tank/ship moving on a map doesn't ruin your immersion, but an outdated sprite does? Honestly who cares about the designs, aren't the original squares denoting unit type better? Very convenient and it makes one feel as a WWII general making plans on a strategic map.
 

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Sweden Tank Tree update v0.4

1934 medium tank added; Stridsvagn m/31
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New Update

Sweden Tank Tree v0.5
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Took a small break from swedish tanks today.

I made some polish infantry tech instead :)

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Weapon tech 1;
Rifle; Karabin wzor 98a
Grenade; Grenade wz. 33

Weapon tech 2;
Machine gun; wz. 39 Mors
Pistol; Vis wz. 35
 

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Vonboe,

While I love the quality of your work, the Vis (Radom) pistol had black plastic grips (not wood) and maybe a little more visible hammer?

They are a really nice firearm (I own one) and Polish and very early German war time production are very well made.