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A Letter to the Lord of the Gluttonic Knights...

Greetings from your past advisor, Lord Sheridan, Captain of the Waterford Mercenary Regiment. Please expect our arrival in Mecklenburg in the spring, to join your service. We require no payment other than a tiny portion of the spoils of war - tiny to such a great nation as Bavaria, but significant in our quest to free Ireland of the English tyranny that currently rules a fifth of our noble isle.

I expect that your naval battles with Spain, while quite glorious, did not yield the intended effect. I would advise a similar strategy to be pursued against Portugal and/or England, as they also hold knowledge of territories far afield.

- Lord Captain Sheridan of the Waterford Mercenary Regiment
 

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"I believe," Lieutenant-General Rickter said, shoving a pastry into his mouth, "that our helpful Irish friend Captain Sheridan is mistaken concerning the maps. It seems that due to a bad batch of cartographers in the west, Spain, Portugal, and all of those other colonizing westerners are unable to carry updated maps on their war vessels (there's a bug in the game that renders stolen rutters useless). Therefore, I would advise sacking the capital of either Portugal or Spain. Mmm!" Rickter said, taking a chunk out of a Bavarian Cream Pie.
 

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Originally posted by Sharur
I hope that when you say that Mecklemburg is a mere shell of a nation, you don't mean that all evidence of the Lost Wlak has been destroyed :eek:

Was Bohemia only one province?

Heh, heh, heh... no evidence of the Lost Wlak is apparent, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. That's why it's "Lost"!:D Not to worry, this tale will unfold, but slowly over the course of the story.

Bohemia was in fact only one province. After the first war between Bohemia and Bavaria, Bavaria annexed all the non-capital provinces except Moravia, which was captured by Austria.
 

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There are too many great moments in your recent set of posts to comment on them all. This is wonderfully, delightfully entertaining.

I think, perhaps, that a screenie might be in order in the not too distant future. I'm starting to forget who's who and where's where...

Err...umm...isn't Spain...err...west of you?:D

Screenies, BLAH! I know, I know, I really need to put some together, and it's not as if I haven't taken screen shots, it's just the hassle of putting them on the web. I promise I'll work on it this weekend.


Re Spain: Err...ummm,...where did I put it? :eek: I found this reference:

The Spanish, the king proclaimed, could be the key to the sea route to Far Cathay. Bold explorers had set forth from the western nations seeking exotic spices.

...which was supposed to imply Spain was a western European nation, but somtimes it's really, really late when I post these things and I miss things.

Let me know where the...um,...where the "scribe" goofed, yeah, that's it, it was the "scribe's" fault. Stupid Scribe!
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Originally posted by Storey
And here I was looking forward to the Gluttonic Knights riding across Asia.:( Oh well if you want to do it the easy way and sail to China I guess shouldn't complain.:D It a great read Heagarty! Looking forward to the next part.

Joe

Hey, nothing's final yet!

The factors that will determine how we reach China will be:

1) The success of explorers
2) Whether we can steal the maps we need
3) Whether conquered eastern lands can reach the corridor across Siberia,

Besides, I THINK you'll find some clues about the resting place of the Lost Wlak point eastwards. :D
 

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Greatings lord of the Glutonnic knight's,

My father wrote you also about the best way to Cathay,
I have tried to get to Cathay myself but i was stopped halfway.
But i'm proude to offer you this : 24 scouts including myself who know half the way to Cathay.
We where stoped by a country of who i don't know the name of.
But i think your knight's will be able to defeat you.
I hope to hear from you soon.

Duke HJ 2 of Hougenzaufen and Texel
 

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The Oregano War

Upon the King's birthday in February of 1500, his new subjects in Mecklenburg presented him with rich tapestry that displayed the new boundaries of Greater Bavaria. This tapestry can be seen today
at the Museum of Gluttonic Knights in Munich, Germany.

(OOC: Click there for screen shots!)

A better present came from the Lithuanians, who accepted peace with Courland in exchange for 150d and military access. Eager to return to peace and resume both the quest to conquer Far Cathay and his investigation into the whereabouts of the Lost Wlak, Albrecht der Weise sent word to the Danzig Regiment occupying Courland to begin negotiations for peace.

Of course, though all of Courland was occupied by Bavaria, the nation, as a protected vassal, could not be annexed, but Livland was returned to Bavaria, military access separate from what was guaranteed by Courland's vassal status was secured and an agreement for 500d in scheduled reparations was made, but the depleted Courlandan treasury ultimately paid only about 50d.

The next step was to make peace with the Palatinat, but this was more difficult. It took upwards of 150d before the small nation accepted Bavaria's offer for a truce. Finally, while the rest of Europe boiled over in multi-national wars, Bavaria could, they were convinced, finally resume their plans uninterrupted.

Their plans were then interrupted. The madness of the King of Austria, once rumored, then joked about, but now widely accepted as fact, again reared its ugly head when the Grand Regis declared that the oregano plant was sown on the earth by the devil and its ingestion led to demonic possession. All oregano was confiscated and burned throughout the Austrian kingdom and in its occupied lands. A dark, but savory, black cloud rolled across Europe and spice gardens from the North Sea to the Adriatic Sea were razed.

One would think that for a nation at war with over twelve other nations, this extreme act would be about as far as Austria could go toward true insanity. But such thoughts would be for the sane mind, and would not take into account exactly how mad the Austrian king really was. The burning of the domestic oregano patches was merely phase one. Phase two was launched on June 1, 1500.

Newly mustered Austrian troops (mostly young men and elderly veterans since so many adult Austrian men were already in the army, fighting far from home) crossed the Adriatic in a dawn invasion, declaring war on Venice, and claiming the leaders of the Republic to be possessed by the evil oregano demons. Burning towns and salting fields, the shock of the Austrians' first attack sent Venice reeling, before they could regroup and call their allies to their aid. Siena, Genoa, Tuscany, and the Papal States all joined forces with Venice against the mad Austrians.

Albrecht der Weise spent the entire night damning Austria, and cursing the inbreeding that produced such a feeble-minded king. He was half ready to send Augustus and his knights into Austria to see if a new leader could be found if an "accident" befell the poor Grand Regis. But honor forbid him from acting on these impulses, no matter how satisfying the results might have been. Instead, Bavaria, and the other members of the alliance, once again came reluctantly to Austria's aid.

Away from the war front, Albrecht continued his stay in Mecklenburg. Much of the province was closed off to outsiders. Though the international markets remained open, they were closely regulated, and an armed guard kept a watchful eye on every piece of merchandise going in and out of the province.

The Irish regulars had arrived and were being kept in choice housing while Albrecht's new Mecklenburg council of advisors met with them. Their assistance in keeping order, and perhaps in helping to recover the Lost Wlak, would be vital, but it was not yet time to throw them into combat.

Plans were contrived about how to get more arms into Eire, and how to best rally the people against the English. Relations between Bavaria and England could not have been worse, and there was great sympathy among the Bavarian people for the Irish.

While Augustus III was kept occupied maintaining order in the newly annexed province of Bohemia, the king took others into his confidence. There was in fact a secret order that had been charged with protecting the secrets of Brother Speilburg, the monk who had tried to document the secrets of the Lost Wlak. However, the brotherhood had apparently fled Mecklenburg some time ago. The government of Mecklenburg had not been hostile to the order, and in fact had actively worked to protect it from the Pope. Why the order of monks had fled was not known, but those who had worked for the government as contacts to the order offered to share what information they knew.

In August, a breakthrough was made, but the king would keep the discovery a secret for the time being.

Other events required his attention. The people of Moldavia had declared their independence from Hungary. Should they remain independent, this could prove to be a problem. It would have been much easier for Bavaria to seize a distant Hungarian province in order to expand eastward than the alternative: having to conquer an independent people and forcibly annex them. This would only worsen Bavaria’s already soiled reputation.

The former officers of the army of Mecklenburg also met with the king. Speaking with as much deference as possible, because after all, the Bavarians DID conquer Mecklenburg most handily, they expressed their concerns that perhaps the Knight’s military methods were too antiquated, and they offered their assistance. (OOC: Bavarian Land Tech is 5, most neighboring nations have 7-9. We’ve been investing in land tech pretty heavily, but are still behind, probably due to how much is going into infrastructure). King Albrecht took this advice and used it as the excuse he needed to summon Augustus III to Mecklenburg. Even the Austrians, mad as they were, had found creative uses for gunpowder, which they called “Big Honking Kablooie Dust”, while Augustus’ knights used the same weaponry as their grandfathers.

While awaiting the arrival of the Lord of his Gluttonic Knights, the king received an appeal from Venice to end hostilities, as the Venetians bore no grudge against the Bavarians, only the mad Austrians. Albrecht readily agreed and ended Bavarian participation in the Oregano War. Finally, after years of being drug into needless conflicts, Bavaria was at peace.

The Oregano War would ultimately topple the Austrians. Stretched too far trying to fight on too many fronts, a disgusted populace finally said “no more”, and many of the Burgandian lands declared their independence. Flanders, Holstein, Lorraine, and Strassburg all left the Austrian kingdom, and the exhausted Austrians let them go without a fight.

Augustus III arrived in Mecklenburg in time to hear the good news that Austria had ceded the lands without a fight, and that Bavaria would remain at peace. That was the only good news he would receive in Mecklenburg.
 

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Dog Meat

“Gunter Mohlman,” the king began, using a name Lord Augustus III had not heard in twenty years, “I thank you for your service to the crown. You will be rewarded for your command of the Gluttonic Knights and your name will be honored by future generations.”

Members of the king’s personal guard then approached from behind and stripped Gunter Mohlman of his sword, cloak, and coat of arms. The king then continued coldly, “Now get out, the buffet is closed.”

Gunter was escorted out of the Grand Hall in Mecklenburg. It is reported that he returned to Ansbach and retired as a successful pub owner, whose establishment was known far and wide for its large-seated stools, extra-wide booths, and expansive door frames.

“Ferd Haroldson,” King Albrecht der Weise called, and a young, tall, brown haired man stepped forth, “ I have selected you based upon your service to me since the incorporation of Mecklenburg into Greater Bavaria. Your knowledge of the Brotherhood of the Wlak marks you as a most rare individual, and the respect you are given by your former commanders elevates you high above all other remarkable candidates. As we have discussed before, stewardship of the Gluttonic Knights is not a task to be taken lightly. You are charged with the protection of Bavaria in times of both war and peace. You are charged with the holy crusade to conquer Far Cathay and return exotic delicacies to the Bavarian people. You are charged with the holiest of missions, the recovery of the Lost Wlak, which will lead us into a greater glory than ever seen before. Do you accept this command?”

“I do,” affirmed the young man, kneeling before the king to be knighted.

“Then,” continued the king, “take this sword, this cloak, and this coat of arms, as they are the symbols of your station. And take with you as your squire Connery O’Sean, of the Irish. He is to advise you on naval policy and he is your liaison to the rebels in Eire. From this day forth you shall be known as Lord Augustus IV of the Gluttonic Knights.”

Receiving leave from his monarch, the newly knighted Augustus IV rode from Mecklenburg to Bayern, using the journey as a time to share vital information with his squire.

“In a crypt beneath the city,” Augustus IV confided in Connery, “a tomb was opened that the king believes held the remains of one of the last raiders of the Mongol camp that seized the Lost Wlak. There’s no way to explain how the raider came to Mecklenburg, and it is believed that he was actually interred elsewhere, but that his remains were brought to Mecklenburg, most likely by Brother Speilburg and his order.

“Among the relics discovered with the remains was a leather scroll that told of a secret temple, built by the raiders to house their holy artifact. But the scroll was not well preserved, and upon being exposed to the air it began to decay rapidly. The king ordered it to be copied immediately, but such work takes time, and not all the details of the scroll were captured. However, it would seem to suggest that if such a temple existed, that it is in the east.

“Thus, we are to return to the capital, and see what can be arranged. We might be able, as individuals, to sneak across the border and conduct a search, but the king would feel much more secure in this venture if the lands to be searched were in Bavarian possession.”

Connery nodded his understanding. Intrigue was nothing new to him, but riding such distances was. He was a sailor, used to riding the waves, not the grand cavalry horses of the Gluttonic Knights, and he would be walking with strange gait for days after the end of their journey.

Upon arriving in the capital, Augustus IV set out to increase the powers of the centralized government. He maintained the investments in infrastructure and military technology, and he extended the matrimonial bonds between Bavaria and many other European nations. Over the next few days, he received reports of the continued fighting between Austria and the alliance of the Palatinat, Courland, Mains, and Munster.


“M’Lord, ow, I bring news,” said Connery, shuffling uncomfortably into the knight’s study. “The Hundred Years War between France and England has ended, and, ow, it would appear the France has won an impressive victory.”

“Tell me more, Connery, and would you like to sit down?” offered Augustus.

“Nay, my Lord, that’s actually even worse, ow. France has won many, many territories: she has claimed most of England’s continental possessions, and has also won many of England’s colonial lands across the Atlantic.”

“Across the Atlantic?”

“Aye, my Lord,” Connery nodded, and then muttered, “Ow, my arse,”

“In other words, they have claimed many new territories in a land that we have no recorded knowledge of?”

“Well, that’s not entirely true, ye see. We have recorded knowledge of it, just nothing specific, as far as maps, or charts, or any way of finding these lands, but in truth, this hat of mine, is actually from a pelt brought back from the colonies, don’t ye know?”

“I see. Well, it’s a very nice hat, but that still does nothing to help us. See what you can do about commissioning some explorer, I don’t care if he’s a Frenchman or a Spaniard. I’ll even take an Englishman if you think we can trust him.”

“There is more to tell, Lord Knight,” Connery continued, “As ye mention England, I must tell ye that the devils have joined with the Palatinat in an alliance, and have entered the war against Austria and those remaining allies that have not found a way out of that conflict.”

“That’s terrible news. And we are duty bound to stay out war with the Palatinat for many more years. Connery, don’t you have any good news for me?”

“I can say that dinner is ready, and that the men are eager to hear from ye. They are restless and ready to return to battle. Though overweight, they seem to be a hearty lot.”

“And what’s on the menu for tonight?”

”The king has ordered more of that Auroch meat from Poland, perhaps to give the men a taste of the east? Well, maybe not that far east, but east nonetheless. Shall we go now?”

The Lord of the knights and his squire proceeded into the banquet hall (with Connery making a slow, ambling, straddle-walk) and joined the knights in a festive dinner. As the plates were being cleared and the rich deserts that were the trademark of the royal kitchens were being brought out, the king’s chef burst into the room in hysterics.

He was babbling and manic, completely incomprehensible. When Augustus tried to calm him the chef completely collapsed thrusting some note into this hand, then fell into a mass of tremors on the ground.

Augustus read the note, then turned and spit violently. He grabbed a tankard from the table, washed his mouth and spit again, then roared with a bellow that gave pause even to the bravest of knights. He threw the note to Connery and stood there, seething. The note was in Polish, and it was a letter addressed to the king. How it was found or when it was delivered was unclear, but it quite clearly inquired as to how the king and his men (luckily the king was far away in Mecklenburg and took no part in this dinner) enjoyed their meal, dining on the finest curs that Poland had to offer. They had been fed dog. Connery passed the letter to another knight, and he passed it to another, and so on, until the entire room was flooded with furious warriors. Raising his sword, Augustus IV swore vengeance, and though white with rage, inside he smiled ever so slightly. He had the excuse to march east that he had been looking for.

“Let the trumpets sound!” Augustus roared to the cheering crowd, “Tomorrow, we ride!”

“Oh joy,” muttered Connery.
 

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The Last Breakfast of der Weise

In 1504 Bavaria declared war on Poland, declining to invite Austria and their poor beleaguered allies, most still at war with all of Austria’s many enemies. The Poles, however, called upon the Hungarians to come to their aid. The people of Bavaria supported the war, justified by the Diplomatic Insult of the Poles.

The winter delayed immediate action, as the remaining Polish territories, and the nearest provinces of Hungary, were cruel lands during the cold season. However, when the weather warmed, the armed camps that had been maintained on the border broke and rode forth invading the long time enemy of Bavaria.

20K men stormed Krakow, defeated the garrison, and began their siege. 14K Polish cavalry rode from Galizien against Podlasia, but were turned back by the Gluttonic Knights. Likewise, a Polish assault to free Krakow was also turned away. Following these early defeats Poland offered a white peace, but the Bavarians demanded greater satisfaction.

Hungary, at war with the Ottoman Empire, which had been slowly encroaching northward into Europe, offered a separate peace, and since the coveted territory of Moldavia was no longer part of Hungary, King Albrecht sent word to Augustus that there was nothing to be gained by further war with the Magyars.

The Gluttonic Knights besieged Galizien, but were outmaneuvered by the Polish cavalry, who defeated the small garrison of knights protecting Podlasia. The invading Bavarians maintained their sieges, and the Poles, cut off from supply, eventually had to abandon their foray into Bavaria and returned to try to liberate Krakow and Galizien. They failed.

Krakow fell again to the Knights, but the pillaging of the archives revealed no knowledge of new lands. The siege of Galizien continued and troops were sent south into the last remaining Polish province of Podolia. This last maneuver took some time as Connery O’Sean, unfamiliar with the area’s geography “accidentally” led his men from Masovia into Podlasia, which, to be fair, did have a very similar sounding name. He denied it had anything to do with giving him a rest from more horseback riding.

In 1505, with the defeat of Poland imminent, the Austrians declared war on Poland and Hungary. Poland was but months away from falling completely to the Bavarian forces, and King Albrecht wonders what the Austrians hope to gain, other than to steal the spoils of Bavaria’s effort.

With the fall of Galizien, news from the south arrived that hordes of Ottoman soldiers had invaded Podalia, and were cutting off Polish supply lines to the South. Augustus kept a wary eye on the increasing number of muslim invaders, but was confident they are outnumbered by the Bavarians.

News arrived that Podalia had fallen, and the Poles offered Galizien and 4d for peace. Random elements of the Polish army were still scattered throughout Hungary and the territories of the Ottomans, but King Albrecht hoped to gain more than one province. Unfortunately he discovered that the Poles, in yet another snub, surrendered Podalia to the OTTOMANS, not the Bavarians!

The king is incensed, but has no recourse. Poland remains at war with the other members of the Bavarian alliance, who joined the Austrians in their declaration of war, and with the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans have denied Bavaria a crucial link eastward, but there seems little that can be done now. Augustus IV rides to Krakow and demands Galizien, military access, and 100d. The Poles accept, but due to their poorly valued currency, Bavaria nets only about 10d out of the settlement.

The first military campaign of Augustus IV did not yield the desired results, but it was deemed a success. King Albrecht never returned to Bayern, and remained in Mecklenburg pouring through whatever could be discovered of the Lost Wlak. Fortifications around Mecklenburg were increased, and some believed the King wished to move the capital.

An Italian Engineer offered his services, but neither the King nor Augustus could be bothered. There were periodic revolts that required the attention of the Knights, and there were diplomatic marriages to be arranged and gifts to be sent to try to repair the damage caused by the annexations of the recent past.

In November of 1508, when the servants brought King Albrecht der Weise his breakfast, delivered to the vast library where he remained all night studying maps and journals, they discovered him face down clutching a ragged, decaying journal. Beside him, his notes indicated that he believed he was very close to a major breakthrough, and if the map he had before him was accurate, he would dispatch the knights eastward at once.

But no map was found. The book before the king, large enough to have contained a detailed map, was open beneath his crumpled body, but covered in the contents of a knocked-over inkwell, which covered both pages, and had seeped through to several others.

Per his wishes, King Albrecht was buried in Mecklenburg, and a new king, Wilhelm IV was crowned in Bayern.
 

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Bavarian Surprise

Augustus IV was very impressed with his new king, Wilhelm IV. While intelligent, he was not the scholar that Albrecht der Weise was. While large and possessing an enormous appetite, he was not the glutton that King Ernst was. And there was nothing favorable that could be said about Kings Albrecht II and Sigmund, but King Wilhelm was thankfully very muck unlike either of them. Wilhelm, though a noble, had served in the military, receiving a generous commission as an officer, but he had been too proud to stay far from combat. He had distinguished himself in battle and was a shrewd tactician. In fact, Wilhelm was a competent and respectable monarch who would lead Bavaria to great things, but sadly, most of his subjects couldn’t get past his third ear.

It was not necessarily a third ear, but perhaps it was that one of his ears, his left one, had been very, very big, but not well formed. Further, an injury received in battle divided it, so that on his left side, the king seemed to have a smaller, ugly ear, beneath a cropped, scarred one. Rumor was that the king could hear the whisperings in the courtyards of Paris, but in fact his hearing was quite poor.

Shortly after his coronation, the practical Wilhelm Hired a Painter to redesign the royal palace, and engineers were brought in to stabilize the leaning structure. This act of sanity improved the image of Bavaria in the eyes of many.

As he had been raised among the tales of the Gluttonic Knights and seen the glorious early victories of Bavaria, the king remained committed to the cause of conquering Far Cathay. He began serious attempts to barter for sea routes with other nations. The French and Spanish seemed to know the most about the lands far from Europe, but both maintained a hatred of Bavaria. Further, there was no new knowledge that Bavaria could trade them.

England knew of 23 new provinces, but had not discovered 9 that were on the Bavarian maps. Yet they, too, hated the Bavarians. The costs of diplomatic gifts to try to warm relations were far too expensive to be taken seriously. But King Wilhelm continued to conspire with the Irish. Perhaps maps could be seized by force or through intrigue?

The king ordered Augustus to continue to survey the European nations for information that could be of use in establishing a sea route eastwards.

In 1509, news arrived that the Ottomans had claimed Podalia from Poland, and the Lithuania had annexed the last remaining province of Krakow. There was much rejoicing in Bavaria.

The nation of Hungary, often an enemy due to their relations with Poland, knew of 72 new lands, and had not heard of 24 on the Bavarian maps. Relations between the two nations were poor, but not irreparable (-100), especially with the death of Poland as a nation. And, worst case, Wilhelm confided in Augustus, if the Hungarians won’t barter, their capital was a convenient target should the Knights decide to seize the maps themselves.

As winter fell in 1509, Augustus and Connery traveled to Mecklenburg. Many of the Irish regulars were returning to Eire, hidden in Bavarian merchant vessels, and the Knights of the Gluttonic Order bid them well. The merchant ships, supposedly delivering exotic foodstuffs, sailed right into the English port at Meath. Upon arriving, the Bavarian captain submitted an inventory form to the harbor master declaring the cargo to be “Bavarian Surprise”. By years end, one county had successfully been seized and independent nation of Eire was established. The English immediately declared war, but the Irish fought bravely, and defeated the English on the island.

While relations between Eire and Bavaria were understandably very good, their new government was a coalition of many interests. Attempts by the Bavarians to welcome the nation of Eire into the Bavarian alliance, and thereby allow Bavarian intervention in the war, were rejected. Further, attempts to secure stolen English maps in Irish possession were also refused. This upset King Wilhelm, but he knew that his allies in Eire were but one faction of many, and continued to support the insurgents with gifts of cash and arms.

The supplying of arms to Eire gave Wilhelm an excuse to try to modernize the military. Augustus IV was prepared for this, as this had been one of the few non-Wlak related items to concern King Albrect der Weise. Bavaria’s respect for tradition kept them lagging far behind their neighbors (OOC: We are still at level 6, while most surrounding nations are at land tech 10, but we’re still trying to get better infrastructure!). More revenues were devoted to this cause, at the expense of available cash for other spending.

Wilhelm invited the vassal nation of Courland into the Bavarian alliance, but was refused. Courland’s rebel factions had mostly been tamed, but perhaps fear of Lithuania and the unpredictable nature of Austria led them to remain outside the alliance. Austria’s strange monarchs did not deter the people of Wurtenburg, however, who submitted to an Austrian vassalization.

The Lithuanian controlled province of Krakow remained in a constant state of revolt, with rebellious Polish nationalists spreading outward into Galizien. The Knights quickly subdued the rebels, but Augustus offered to secure military access from Lithuania in order to put down the rebels at their source. The king was reluctant to do this, however, as he was unready to agree to any steps that would limit potential action against Lithuania.

Augustus later discovered that it was a young Wilhelm to whom King Albecht had promised the infamous “Purloined Pen” used to sign the treaty of alliance between Bavaria and Lithuania, and after the pen had been stolen by the Lithuanian bureaucrat, a deep resentment began to grow within the future king, that today had become an obsession. But that is a story for later.

More emphasis was given on improving relations with other nations, and it was hoped that a few years of peace might help bring Bavaria back into good favor with the other nations. In 1512, the peace was temporarily broken when Polish rebels declared their independence from Lithuania.

Austria and the other Bavarian allies refused to honor their agreement to support Lithuania, which especially enraged the Lithuanians who had supported Austria’s many insane military ventures, including burning acres of rosemary and thyme gardens during the Oregano war. King Wilhelm didn’t need to be told twice, well, actually he did, due to his impaired hearing in his two left ears, but after the second time was quite resolute that the Lithuanians should be left to fend for themselves.

Augustus was quickly dispatched to form a new alliance, adding Austria and Courland to the new entente. The free people of Eire were also invited, but again they rejected the offer to join. A lack of available diplomats delayed expansion of the alliance, but shortly thereafter Helvetia was also reincorporated into the alliance.

In 1513 the king traveled to Mecklenburg, which did not hold for him the fascination that ensnared his predecessor, and commissioned the building of a new naval stores factory. Though facility was privately owned and the club-footed proprietor was not willing to share his secrets (OOC: It came about as a “new invention” random event, we don’t have the tech to build them yet), he was willing to commission it to the service of the king, whom he admired as an inspiration to all the disfigured people of Bavaria.

With the new factory, Augustus shifted domestic policies away from a strictly land-based policy. Perhaps a more balanced approach between land and naval would attract the explorers so desperately needed to travel around Africa?

Connery, still in the service of Augustus, returned to Bavaria from Eire to report that France had won another decisive victory over England, and that England had lost many New World possessions to the French. Sharing this news with the king, the two leaders were convinced that once the long-sought domestic improvements were complete that war needed to be launched against France, England, or Spain so that these precious maps could be seized.

Brief unrest plagued the land. Rebels in Livland were easily defeated, as usual, by the Knights. However rebels in Ansbach, though outnumbered 5-1 repeated defeated the mounted Knights. Military technology superior to that of the Knights was now finding its way into rebel hands, but the rebels were eventually subdued, and military research increased.

The year 1514 ended, and so did the first era of the Gluttonic Knights. They had served the Kings of Bavaria for almost 100 years, and in doing so had expanded the size of the kingdom almost nine-fold. The year 1515 would begin the next chapter of the Gluttonic Knights. And nothing would remain the same.
 

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Okay, here's where I've taken a break.

Lots of questions to answer for the future of this game.

1) In 1515, the Reformation occurs. Bavaria's provinces are split between protestants and catholics.

See the screen shot

I'm leaning toward remaining catholic but having max tolerance for protestants and catholics, which means sheer hatred of muslims (already there) and the orthodox church. THAT means it would be mighty difficult to maintain a lot of eastern provinces leading toward Siberia.

Missionaries are plentiful, but expensive. And I'm also not sure how to work the entire Reformation into a food-related storyline. :D

2) In 1515 we get an explorer! Woo Hoo! As we already have a volunteer, Duke HJ II, I can easily make him the explorer, but where do we send him? The plan would be to send him as far south down the African coastline as I can, with a big complement of ships to stave off attrition, and try to colonize something on the way to give him a friendly port where he can resupply.

Since Portugal is no more, we have the EXTREMELY LUCKY benefit of no ToT Portuguese annexations of any African colonies! I'd like to get down to the Cape, and if we can successfully build out of there, move onward to the Indian Ocean islands, then Asia.

Don't know how long the explorer will last, but we'll go as far as we can.

3) In 1515, I finally get the ability to build chief judges, so $$$ can go into land tech to try to catch up with our neighbors.

4) Do we try to declare war on a major nation (England, France, Spain)to sieze their maps? Or would that endanger our explorer? Do we wait until after he leaves us? Or is the war strategy too risky for now?

Alternatively, do we forsake the sea and punch through Lithuania to Muscowy and the Asian hordes, and push on to Siberia? That could be extremely difficult, not so much conquering the lands, but holding on to them due to the religious differences (see above).

So, at this point, I'm going to ask for whatever feedback you wish to provide. I'd like to get a good discussion before proceeding, so feel free to agree or disagree with anyone else's suggestions.

All the way to China? Is it possible? :p
 

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First of all, pump as much money as possible into missionaries to convert as many provinces as possible. Your current tolerance level (half tolerance for Orthodox and Protestant) will work better the fewer Protestant and Orthodox provinces you have, obviously.

England is getting beat on, and you don't like them anyway. DOW them, sack London, and try to help Eire gain a few provinces. But make sure the land tech won't be too much of a problem.
 

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one wonders what the gluttonic knights will do when they discove chocolate on the spanish ships they steal. Chocolate covered rice... mmm.
 

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Re: FEEDBACK

Originally posted by heagarty
Okay, here's where I've taken a break.

Lots of questions to answer for the future of this game.

1) I'm leaning toward remaining catholic but having max tolerance for protestants and catholics, which means sheer hatred of muslims (already there) and the orthodox church. THAT means it would be mighty difficult to maintain a lot of eastern provinces leading toward Siberia.

Missionaries are plentiful, but expensive. And I'm also not sure how to work the entire Reformation into a food-related storyline. :D

2) In 1515 we get an explorer! Woo Hoo! As we already have a volunteer, Duke HJ II, I can easily make him the explorer, but where do we send him? The plan would be to send him as far south down the African coastline as I can, with a big complement of ships to stave off attrition, and try to colonize something on the way to give him a friendly port where he can resupply.
Don't know how long the explorer will last, but we'll go as far as we can.

4) Do we try to declare war on a major nation (England, France, Spain)to sieze their maps? Or would that endanger our explorer? Do we wait until after he leaves us? Or is the war strategy too risky for now?

Alternatively, do we forsake the sea and punch through Lithuania to Muscowy and the Asian hordes, and push on to Siberia? That could be extremely difficult, not so much conquering the lands, but holding on to them due to the religious differences (see above).
All the way to China? Is it possible? :p

1) Don't forget that you don't have to conquer every province between you and China. I wasn’t kidding when I said you only need to fight wars that give you a province every so often as long as you force them to give to military access. I would say you would only have to control one out of every four provinces between you and China. This way you do the old hop skip and a jump all the way to China.:D I have no doubt about you being able to work anything into food-related storyline.:p

2) Its hell to get a colony on the African coast. There is an island somewhere down the coast that's easier for setting up a colony but the rest of the coast is a real problem. Not impossible but very difficult. Even trading posts are a problem. That had better be a very big fleet that you send down there!

4) Sacking a capital is the best way to get maps. Of course they may not have the ones you need.:(

I still like the long walk through Asia instead of the water route but then I'm not the one who has to figure out how to do the nearly impossible.:D Still if you succeed your name will be passed down from one generation to another as the man who blazed a trail where no sane man would dare to go.:D
 

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If I might offer a few little tactics that have worked wonders for me...

1. Forget it. There isn't enough money or time to do it and the BB wars will eat you alive. If you feel you can suffer the stab hit, short term, by all means convert but it isn't crucial.

2. Big trick to non-AI exploring (i.e. human where-you-suffer-attrition exploring). Sail quickly and carry a bunch of cash and diplomats on board.

a.) explore as far as you can.

b.) when it's starting to look like you're about 3-4 months away from needing a port, keep exploring but send a state gift to whatever new nation you've recently discovered that has a port in the area.

c.) request military access. (supply additional state gifts if necessary to bribe the new nation into saying yes). Once you've got it, if you don't do anything really horrible it will almst never be revoked. (I've had a nation revoke access once in 10-15 games in spite of complete religious intollerence and a BB of 500+. The trick is to negotiate the access early, before it costs a fortune.

d.) slip into the now-friendly port for a quick refuel, and onwards you go.

I managed to exlore all the way around Africa, across to India, the Philipines, the coast of China, and all the way up to the north edge of the map on the west coast of the Pacific that way in a little under three years with my closest actual port being...

...wait for it...

...Gibraltar! :cool:

Next explorer...Alaska, where I established a colony. All in three years (except it took another 2-3 years to actually establish a full colonial city in Alaska, but the gold was nice and then I colonized my way down the coast until I ran into the Spanish.

Total losses: of the five ships I devoted to the two missions, four returned safely(damned storms!).

3. Sure...but naval tech will be important too. Sail via the military access ports using the shift+right-click option so you don't lose valuable time/men loading the armies back up every time you stop in a "friendly" port. I've used 80 ships (60/0/20) to transport a 100k army and only lost 2k men in transit from Gibraltar to Korea. Since the tech levels of the Asian nations will be puny compared to yours (I was Land Tech 21 vs Malacca's Land Tech 5) you pick on a small nation, take one of it's port provinces as a peace condition, and keep at least enough there to put down the continual revolts. Build up the fortress (or fortresses) enough to support a large enough army sitting there and then go after the next larger target (Dai Viet, Manchu?) who you will also out-tech. Take them out to get a footing on the mainland and then start to build/ferry troops in.

Needless to say, the better your naval tech, the faster your ships will sail and the fewer army losses through attrition you'll take. When you've got about 300k infantry, 80k cavalry, and 100k artillery, destroy China, or part thereof, and you've got Cathay.

4. See 1-3 above.:D

Well...it's worked for me.:)

***

Having said all that...take all the time in the world as long as you get there by 1819. I'm loving this AAR and I'd hate to see it end too soon.:)
 

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Mylord,
thank you for the job.
I'm on my way now to my small fleet.
Can i get soldiers?
You never know if we need them.





Duke HJ 2 of hougenzaufen und Texel.
 

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Any other thoughts, ideas?

I played through about another 40 years with very mixed results and am wondering whether to write it up as is, or try again if anyone has any other ideas.

The first attempt at naval exploration went poorly...VERY poorly.:p

However, another explorer arrived and in later years I've made some small progress.

Also got caught up in far too many wars with enemies of Austria. Why they don't have a four digit BB rating yet, I don't know! :eek:

Anyhow, I'll resume the story next week or this weekend, so if anyone has any more comments/suggestions/ideas/random bits of story-line to interject, please do so.

Thanks,

Chris