Tales of Hard drives and Cooling suits

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Spinning disks? You talk about that stuff, they used in the last millennium? That millennium where they also rode on horses and wore iron armor suits?
Not to mention actually invented the tech you're so brazenly disregarding ;) Oh, and learned to fly, went to the moon, and invented the Internet :)

Personally I have two SSDs and a hybrid SSD/HDD in my system. Spinning disks are still the cheapest way to store large amounts of data.
 

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That's the joke, most of us should be running SSDs now surely? It is the 3rd Millenium now :)
Closer to 6th or 7th, depending on who's calendar you're using.

But i know when I got my current system 2ish years ago, SSDs were still too small and expensive to go without a main HHD. One was fine as a boot disk, but that was about it.
 

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That's the joke, most of us should be running SSDs now surely? It is the 3rd Millenium now :)
Hmmpf.

There's a reason my newest system is the first time in my entire life that I've ever gone down in storage capacity as compared to my previous primary system. Earlier today I deleted some of the Angels Spring Training games off of my MythTV server to free up some space... it has 7TB installed and under 100GB free. The system I'm currently on has 6TB, which fortunately is not anywhere near as full. By contrast, my gaming system has that SSD... and that's why I don't leave all the games I own installed on it.
 

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Not to mention actually invented the tech you're so brazenly disregarding ;) Oh, and learned to fly, went to the moon, and invented the Internet :)

Personally I have two SSDs and a hybrid SSD/HDD in my system. Spinning disks are still the cheapest way to store large amounts of data.
I think it was a figure of speech. If theres a bug in the platform it would still access your other drives wether they be SSD's or hybrid drives. It's something to consider with SSD's as well because the more times they're accessed the shorter their lifespan.

Mechanical drives gave MTBF Mean Time Before Failure , SSD's have TBW Terra Bytes Written. I use my PC so much I typically exceed TBW in a years time on drives that have values around 300. If the game engine beats up all our drives... It could be a bad thing.

FYI
 

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I think it was a figure of speech. If theres a bug in the platform it would still access your other drives wether they be SSD's or hybrid drives. It's something to consider with SSD's as well because the more times they're accessed the shorter their lifespan.

Mechanical drives gave MTBF Mean Time Before Failure , SSD's have TBW Terra Bytes Written. I use my PC so much I typically exceed TBW in a years time on drives that have values around 300. If the game engine beats up all our drives... It could be a bad thing.

FYI
Although to be fair, it sounded like even if said bug is still around it would only read the drive. The technology involved has a far higher tolerance for reads than writes, so it likely wouldn't be a factor at all.
 

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I think it was a figure of speech. If theres a bug in the platform it would still access your other drives wether they be SSD's or hybrid drives. It's something to consider with SSD's as well because the more times they're accessed the shorter their lifespan.

Mechanical drives gave MTBF Mean Time Before Failure , SSD's have TBW Terra Bytes Written. I use my PC so much I typically exceed TBW in a years time on drives that have values around 300. If the game engine beats up all our drives... It could be a bad thing.

FYI
Sure. Then again, one of those SSDs I mentioned is an OCZ Vertex 2 SATA II 3.5" 120GB SSD from 2011; it has been my system drive (C: ) for seven years now without a hitch.
 

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Isn't this game basically people wearing iron armor suits?
Nope. Sitting in iron giants, with a control console.

The pre-order banner at the top of the forum actually annoys me. You don't 'suit up' to pilot a battlemech. Because of the heat concerns, you strip down.
 

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Nope. Sitting in iron giants, with a control console.

The pre-order banner at the top of the forum actually annoys me. You don't 'suit up' to pilot a battlemech. Because of the heat concerns, you strip down.
Not any more. In current canon you do suit up - in a full-body cooling suit. The "cooling vest and underwear" aesthetic has been largely retconned (sadly).
 

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Not any more. In current canon you do suit up - in a full-body cooling suit. The "cooling vest and underwear" aesthetic has been largely retconned (sadly).
One more reason to be glad we're dealing with Jordan and the classics, rather than current 'canon,' then.

Catalyst can do whatever they want in their unrelated setting filled with hybrid clan empires and religious cyber-suicide bombers.
 

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One more reason to be glad we're dealing with Jordan and the classics, rather than current 'canon,' then.

Catalyst can do whatever they want in their unrelated setting filled with hybrid clan empires and religious cyber-suicide bombers.
Hey now, no Era-shaming! Some people seem to like those hybrid clan empires and religious cyber-suicide bombers, and who are we to say they're having fun the wrong way?

That said, I too am very happy HBS set the game in 3025.
 

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One more reason to be glad we're dealing with Jordan and the classics, rather than current 'canon,' then.

Catalyst can do whatever they want in their unrelated setting filled with hybrid clan empires and religious cyber-suicide bombers.
TBH, the whole cooling suit makes far more sense than wearing less clothes if the problem is heat. And it steers well clear of the, well lets say issues, that come about when you depict the males in vests and shorts and the females in bikinis.
 

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The pre-order banner at the top of the forum actually annoys me. You don't 'suit up' to pilot a battlemech. Because of the heat concerns, you strip down.

That doesn't bother me really. Even in the traditional MechWarrior garb sense (short sleeve shirt or tank-top, shorts, and combat boots), a MechWarrior is still putting on a cooling vest and a Neruohelmet, so I could still see where suiting up is ok.

Overall though, I never really liked that proper dress idea for a MechWarrior. The pumping of coolant through only a vest to keep the MechWarrior cool is perfectly fine, but I would think that a full body environmental suit (that seals to a Neurohelmet) would have made more sense.

Maybe it is because I think a full self contained suit with coolant would work more efficiently, and maybe because of the video games, I have seen combat in low atmosphere or vacuum where a cockpit breach would be deadly without some protection, etc...
 

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Kinda like still suits in Dune?

Nope. Stillsuits are designed to do one thing: reclaim moisture excreted by the body. It doesn't keep one comfortable (and in fact in the books they're pretty uncomfortable unless you *really* know how to accessorize).

Cooling vests/suits are designed to help regulate the body temperature of the mechwarrior, such that they don't pass out or die when their cockpit's get really, really toasty.
 

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Sure. Then again, one of those SSDs I mentioned is an OCZ Vertex 2 SATA II 3.5" 120GB SSD from 2011; it has been my system drive (C: ) for seven years now without a hitch.
Honestly, I can't stress this enough... Older tech had much higher tolerances. It's like when HDD's moved from 4200 rpm to 5200... Then 7200. Stuff that used to last over a decade only ended up lasting 3-5 years.

The older SSDs were damn near unkillable... I had a similar drive I just donated with a computer to a charity last year.

A lot of it has to do with speed and heat generation.
 

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Coolant suits were supposed to be lostech. Perhaps the SLDF suits with integral armor in addition to cooling still are.. in the 3025 era the tech had regressed so much that the materials and knowledge to make MechWarrior combat suits was supposedly lost.
Thanks, I remember the mech warriors in the MechCommander intro being stripped down so wondered wth ;)