Taking Mecca(Yeah Right!)

[Damocles]

The Hagia Sophia is of immense significance to both Orthodox and Islam. In the time frame of CK...It could be considered the most important fixture of the Orthodox world.

 

[unmerged(10591)]

The original objective was to re-take Jerusalem. Except for Reynald de Chatillon and his attempt on Mecca there were no serious plans to capture the city. Might have just been because it was not operationally feasable to do so, or maybe the Christians just didn't care. As long as only Christian states are playable there should be no great reason to have Mecca on the map.

Well thats because the Crusades in the end lost there foothold in the Holy Land.... I was assuming that if the Crusader states were held in the Holy Land permentently (or longer) eventually the Pope would decide to push forward towards the heart of Islam.

 

[Alexandre]

Originally posted by Damocles
The Hagia Sophia is of immense significance to both Orthodox and Islam. In the time frame of CK...It could be considered the most important fixture of the Orthodox world.

Very important, yes. Central to Orthodoxy, no. One doesn't have to make a pilgrimage to Hagia Sophia. Christ never lived in Constantinople. Non-Christians aren't barred from Constaintople on the theory that somehow they'd pollute it. Hagia Sophia has about the same role in Orthodoxy as St. Peter's has to Catholics or Cantebury Cathedral has to Anglicans.

Alexandre

 

[unmerged(485)]

Originally posted by Ivan the Mad


Well thats because the Crusades in the end lost there foothold in the Holy Land.... I was assuming that if the Crusader states were held in the Holy Land permentently (or longer) eventually the Pope would decide to push forward towards the heart of Islam.

What they held they held for almost 200 years and AFAIK there was only one attempt at raiding Mecca. But I understand your point - if the Latin kingdoms would have kept on expanding then eventually it woud have been feasible to take Mecca.

 

[Idiotboy]

Originally posted by Sonny


What they held they held for almost 200 years and AFAIK there was only one attempt at raiding Mecca. But I understand your point - if the Latin kingdoms would have kept on expanding then eventually it woud have been feasible to take Mecca.

So is there anybody who actually has any idea if Mecca will even be on the map. We have some rough descriptions on the layout but do that include the arabian peninsula??

 

[Alexandre]

Originally posted by Idiotboy


So is there anybody who actually has any idea if Mecca will even be on the map. We have some rough descriptions on the layout but do that include the arabian peninsula??

Given the area that Paradox has told us will be on the map, Mecca is just on the edge of the map. The question is whether it is the inside edge or the outside edge.

Sergei, any hints? Please!!!

Alexandre