Originally posted by jacob-Lundgren
so they are in the game?!?!?
if so i got 2 mains to play.
portugal and ethiopia.
No clue.. as for portugal im fairly sure that it didnt exist from the beginning.
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No clue.. as for portugal im fairly sure that it didnt exist from the beginning.
2 things
1. as long as there is more then 1 scenario i am set as portugal
2. jeez i was really looking forward to making it twice the size it actualy was
1. as long as there is more then 1 scenario i am set as portugal
2. jeez
i was really looking forward to making it twice the size it actualy was 
that leaves me portugal.
please say they exist in the main campaign somehow? even as 5 drunken men crusading around the countryside
hmmm that leaves me needing another one to pick to play as.
please say they exist in the main campaign somehow? even as 5 drunken men crusading around the countryside
hmmm that leaves me needing another one to pick to play as.
Portugal did not exist in 1066, and will thus not be in the main campaign.
There will be a couple of later scenarios though...
There will be a couple of later scenarios though...
guess we know what i am playing first then
although when was brandenburg founded? can you play as them in the game ever?
although when was brandenburg founded? can you play as them in the game ever?
I don't know really. Those later scenarios will be released later AFAIK. Not with the release.Originally posted by jacob-Lundgren
guess we know what i am playing first then
I don't know about the rest of the game, but I can't imagine they will be there in the main campaign, as the non-pagan part was a part of the Duchy of Saxony at the time.
This was actually Albuquerque's dream : seizing Mecca like a hostage. There was also diverting the Nile in Ethiopia to turn Egypt into a desert but i digress.
Portuguese raids in the Red Sea happened in the 1530's as well. Not sure if Jeddah was sacked by then or i the 1510's.
1066 ? No Portugal ? I guess it's correct but is there some entity vasalized by Leon called the Portucale County ?
where do i see a list of who i can play as? i checked out the faq(well scanned it hehe) and didnt see any big lists
Capturing Mecca would start an Islamic Crusade.
I think it is too far south and most nearby land would be PTI.
I think it is too far south and most nearby land would be PTI.
What modicum? If not having him tortured is what you mean then I guess you are correct. But Saladin personally cut his head off (well not all the way off IIRC but he hacked through his neck down to his breastbone).
Wonder if we will be able to execute our prisoners if we want.
Why would it be too far south? We know that part of the Arabian Peninsula will be on the map, and if any part of the Arabian Peninsula is important enough to make sure is on the map, it is Mecca.
I'd read it as meaning parts of Persia and all of Arabia. However, you are right: I could be reading what I want to read. Do we know if any of the Numibian Christian kingdoms are going to be included? If they are, then Mecca will. . .
Alexandre
The County of Portucale did definitely exist in 1066, and could be renamed the County of Portugal with little difficulty. Whether or not it will be playable is a different matter...
True, but Mecca could still be in even if they aren't, as Mecca is further north than all but the northernmost part of the northernmost of the Nubian kingdoms.
what about my question?
is there a playable country list? i didnt see one when i scanned the faq and dont know where one would be?
is there a playable country list? i didnt see one when i scanned the faq and dont know where one would be?
I don't think there is much of a chance that mecca will be in the game. Look at a world map, and draw a square with the Urals as the eastern border, and (roughly) the bottom of egypt as the southern border. Under such a map, we would get a sliver of Persia, Iraq and the like, and less than half of Arabia. That is the most likely configuration.
Sure, they *could* include all of Arabia, but if they did, they would either have to inlcude Nubia, most of Ethiopia, almost all of Persia, a good deal of central asia, ect. Or they could include PTI, but I have my suspicions that, within the 'square' there will be no PTI provinces, mostly because they seem to have included the samoyed and other finnic peoples for Russia, suggesting the 'square' has been in formerly arcic areas at the top.
Anyway, this brings up another suspicion I have. That one of the reasons muslims are unplayable is because many of them (especially the Turks) will have lands across the PTI that the game will correct for. Meaning, the game will cheat and nerf their manpower and income, the same as it will with the Mongols. Anyone else suspect this?
I tend to think that including the Christian Nubian kingdoms would be a mistake. Sure, they're Christian and would therefore have to be made playable, but their cultures are SO different from those of Europe that it would make a very poor simulation.
As well, map edge effects would make for a very unrealistic simulation for Nubia.
As well, map edge effects would make for a very unrealistic simulation for Nubia.
Not in the least
I don't know what maps you are looking at, but by drawing a line just barely to the south of (in your words "roughly") the Egyptian border, you can get Mecca in. And when I say "just barely", I mean just that, it's something like 20 miles...
And by drawing the eastern boundary in the middle of the Urals, at 60 degrees east, you get not just a "sliver of Persia", but all but the easternmost section of present-day Iran. By going along the eastern edge of the Urals, you can get even more in...