Tag Change Effects

[Wicked1066]

Hi, got a couple questions on tag changing, for one reason or another, either getting bored early or playing a country that doesn't change tags, I've never done so, playing an England game now, determined to see it through, what will happen when I change to Great Britain?

1: Decisions; will previously enacted ones disappear, forcing me to reenact useful decisions, provided I still can (like the ones that "die out" after a certain timeframe)? Same subject, will I be forced into the default GB slider positions or will I keep my own, modified by the decision effects?

2: Cores, I know I'll gain the whole British Isles by default, but what happens to continental cores I've gained through missions, or colonial claims, will these reflag as GB, or do I have to wait another 50 years? And lastly, my current in-game global flag modifiers, province modifiers, and history, will these carry over?

Sorry if these have been answered in detail elsewhere, probably have, but my search results weren’t too informative.

Thanks,
Wicked

 

[knul]

See for details: http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/British_nation

You will keep your old cores, NIs, slider settings, etcetera when changing tag. Unification decisions are very benificial to take, with no downsides.

 

[Icendoan]

1. All your current enacted decisions remain. In addition, as the English decisions (Britannia Rules the Waves etc) all depend on having English culture, you will get them as Great Britain, as well. You will keep your own slider positions. Aside from the move to centralisation from enacted the decision, you won't get any additional slider moves just because you've changed tags.

2. You will gain GBR cores on all of the British isles, which will always stay there. All of your continental cores will be replaced by new GBR cores, and if you have not yet cored conquered territory, the timer for cores is replaced, but not reset. If you were to release England as a vassal, you would not be releasing all your continental holdings/colonies, only England in the British Isles.

There is one downside to tag changing, which appears only when playing a Merchant Republic. If you change tags as any Merchant Republic, you will lose all the members of your trade league. This can be very debilitating, and other leagues may prey on your loss of trade. On the other hand, unified countries tend to be very strong, so it's unlikely that you'll see a massive drop in power.

 

[Shiranui]

All you lose is the color, name and flag.

 

[Icendoan]

All you lose is the color, name and flag.

Sometimes you lose decisions as well - for example, Prussia loses the ability to enact Prussian Military Reforms once they've formed Germany, which is a huge loss to the Prussians. It depends on the decisions. For England and the Scandinavian countries, unifying doesn't lose you any decisions. The exception to this is forming the HRE.

 

[yequr]

Sphere of influence seems to get messed up sometimes. When attacking your old spheres, for, say, your new cores, you will get "they are in [your old tag]'s sphere". I'm not sure if there are any other effects than that on the SOI though.

 

[cuendillar]

I think sponsored rebels are affected too. They won't transfer their loyalty to your new tag, but unless you've recently spy-spammed I don't see that as particularly significant.

 

[jdrou]

There is one downside to tag changing, which appears only when playing a Merchant Republic. If you change tags as any Merchant Republic, you will lose all the members of your trade league.

This is fixed in the 5.2 beta.

And since no one else mentioned it yet, you need to save and reload as soon as possible after changing tags to prevent a lot of glitches and strange behavior (especially with diplomatic ties).

 

[Alpinia]

One other downside is that all your uncored colonies will gain a "nationalism" revolt risk modifier which can sometimes lead to some serious rebel problems.

 

[unmerged(238563)]

Also you can lose tag specific missions, in your case this includes the best mission ever, *Occupy Paris*, so make sure to complete that before you switch. I ruined my first game when I formed GB before 1420. :sad: