System Requirements

[Yenzen]

There's a lot of Windows players with insufficient hardware according to Windows requirements but not OSX requirements.

If there isn't an insane optimization for OSX (and there's no reason to assume this is the case) then we're either telling Windows players that adequate hardware isn't actually, or Mac players that insufficient hardware will do fine.

 

[mentok]

So would a intel iris 5100 meet the mac minimum? It's strange how mac requirements are lower as I run EU4 through bootcamp as I get better performance doing so.

 

[HoogerTarp]

So would a intel iris 5100 meet the mac minimum? It's strange how mac requirements are lower as I run EU4 through bootcamp as I get better performance doing so.

I would presume so. If you run EU4 at a comfortable rate, the GPU for EU4 is the same for the minimum GPU for Stellaris.

 

[Yenzen]

I would presume so. If you run EU4 at a comfortable rate, the GPU for EU4 is the same for the minimum GPU for Stellaris.

No. Performance requirements for Stellaris are higher.

 

[moncky]

So would a intel iris 5100 meet the mac minimum? It's strange how mac requirements are lower as I run EU4 through bootcamp as I get better performance doing so.

Isn't that a bit like putting milk in your Earl Grey tea? In any case thats interesting. That would put paid to the fact that one of the benefits of a mac is that its designed around specific hardware. How much extra performance is there?

 

[mentok]

Isn't that a bit like putting milk in your Earl Grey tea? In any case thats interesting. That would put paid to the fact that one of the benefits of a mac is that its designed around specific hardware. How much extra performance is there?

It's not massive but the performance is a bit better, CK2 runs about the same on both. I think it's because Windows updates their graphics drivers more regularly than mac.

 

[Leonick]

It's not massive but the performance is a bit better, CK2 runs about the same on both. I think it's because Windows updates their graphics drivers more regularly than mac.

Or rather, manufacturers of the graphics ship do and put more focus on Windows. DirectX vs OpenGL implementation of the game can play in to it as well.

Same reasons most games tend to run better on Windows than on Linux even if the hardware is the same.

 

[HoogerTarp]

No. Performance requirements for Stellaris are higher.

I believe he's talking about the minimum mac requirements for Stellaris, specifically referring to the GPU, which if you compare, is virtually identical to the minimum gpu mac requirements for EU4. So I don't get where you're getting at.

 

[Yenzen]

I believe he's talking about the minimum mac requirements for Stellaris, specifically referring to the GPU, which if you compare, is virtually identical to the minimum gpu mac requirements for EU4. So I don't get where you're getting at.

That unless Stellaris requirements are basically only higher for Stellaris compared to EU4 for PC and not Mac, they just ported the requirements over without increasing then like they did for PC, even though the current requirements probably won't cut it

 

[HoogerTarp]

That unless Stellaris requirements are basically only higher for Stellaris compared to EU4 for PC and not Mac, they just ported the requirements over without increasing then like they did for PC, even though the current requirements probably won't cut it

I see. This wasn't entirely relevant to what I was addressing with mentok, but I see where you're getting at. Likewise, I hope a dev could hopefully get back on us about the mystery that is the Mac system requirements. I'm placing my bet that the graphics for the Mac will be significantly lower than that for the Windows. Perhaps the planets will have stronger shadows based on the sun? I don't know for sure, just my guess.

 

[mentok]

That unless Stellaris requirements are basically only higher for Stellaris compared to EU4 for PC and not Mac, they just ported the requirements over without increasing then like they did for PC, even though the current requirements probably won't cut it

It is possible they had an old mac laying around the office that they put stellaris on just to see if it booted/ran without checking it's performance.

 

[Leonick]

It is possible they had an old mac laying around the office that they put stellaris on just to see if it booted/ran without checking it's performance.

But in that case they would have listed the hardware they used as the minimum or maybe even what model it was (that really would be an easy way to do it with Macs) but they didn't, they've listed hardware that no Mac has ever had as the minimum (and recommended).