Synthetic Ascension Merges All Species

[Michael Kim]

I don't know if it's a bug or it's intended, but all my existing biological pops are turned into a single robotic species under my founder species. Furthermore, all assimilated pops that migrate into my empire are turned into that species as well.

I miss my rainbow (and Nivlac and Racket).

 

[Piotrzeci]

It does seem to work as intended. Why would you have species, if you have robots and can literally rebuild the whole population as the same type of robot. I just don't know why it doesn't make synthetics a sub-specie of ascended organics.

 

[Elite Psion]

As someone who likes playing as xenophiles, I hate that synthetic ascension just homogenizes all my unique friends into the same species.

 

[Mastikator]

It's always been this way. My only complaint is that old synths aren't also merged into the synth group.

 

[BlackUmbrellas]

As someone who likes playing as xenophiles, I hate that synthetic ascension just homogenizes all my unique friends into the same species.

Then why are you pursuing it?

 

[Tech Noir Synth]

Synthetic Ascension overall is just terrible in this patch and needs to be adressed. Here is some info copied from reddit user MarcoXerox:
"
Upkeep for free pops is substantial (1.25F + 0.25CG + 1 Amenity + 1 Housing / worker)

• Enslaved synths (additional +10% production from tech, w/ Flesh is Weak to prevent AI rebellion plus other buffs) or droids (+5% from efficient processors) are the best pops in game. ($1 + 1 Amenity + 0.5 Housing / specialist) Plus they have no PP or happiness unlike slaves, which means high stability and high resource output. Taking synthetic evolution ironically downgrades their usefulness as upkeep is substantially higher. In fact, droids are preferable to enslaved synths, and IMO the synthetic path is somewhat weak.
• Slaves are the next best pops in game. (1.25F + 0.05CG + 0.75 Amenity)
  • Even at low habitability slaves are still pretty good as increase in CG upkeep is minimal. I find sending some slaves to low habitability worlds where their growth will be limited quite useful as it allows for more pops of primary species. Plus less xenos = less xenophile attraction.
  • Domestic servants (0.75 Housing) are never unemployed, can become entertainers (which is specialist), and provide amenities when they are idle. Great for ecumenopolises or habitats.
  • Livestock (0.25 Housing) are great for building slots, and by extension habitats. In fact with livestock 6 districts is enough for housing everyone and it saves you from adopting Master Builders AP. "

Having a big part of your population suddenly requiring twice the house is a huge blow to your economy. Furthermore food jobs should switch over to technician jobs like in the old version and energy gain per job has to be raised to be equal to food.

Engineering tech is incredibly scarce and the projects to robomod your entire species take up too much engineering research. But Engineering research is the most important as it unlocks techs like mega engineering but even more importantly starbase upgrades which are mandatory for your survival.

Pop growth is strong on highest level capital building, however Robots and Synths need to be able to migrate automatically. Having a 50+ planet game with half of them being maxed out on pops, the game turns into resettlement simulator. I am using a mod for automated migration via a planet decision but this should simply be an option for everyone and not a quality of life that needs a mod.

Also the planetary "decision" to turn off drone production on a full planet is completely useless. Its a waste of 25 energy and pops working roboticists jobs. You can simply disable roboticists jobs for free, get those pops work on something else and achieve the same.

These "bio reactors" which convert food to energy should not be taken seriously. This is just a huge band-aid and not worth a building slot.

 

[Xshu]

Personally, I like changing all of the aliens in my empire into the same synthetic race. There's something I find pleasant about everyone coming together to form one singular race without resorting to eugenics. Well, unless you count killing off all of the bio-races after uploading them as eugenics. I especially love that I can set people to have the Assimilation species rights and they still migrate to my empire specifically to become robots. Or possibly our tourism board is just fantastic at lying.

Admittedly, you probably should be asked which species you want to have the Assimilation right before they assume you want everyone to become synthetic.

Synthetic Ascension overall is just terrible in this patch and needs to be adressed. Here is some info copied from reddit user MarcoXerox:

I'm not sure this was the appropriate thread for that. It's about whether synthetic ascension is supposed to (and if so, whether is should) incorporate all aliens in your empire, not whether synthetic ascension is good.