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Hm... those faces definitely look different. Even though the vanilla faces certainly seem pale enough to work for Scandinavians, I have no problem with more portrait packs -- portraits are my favorite kind of DLC.

That said, they should sell the mythical Mediterranean portraits already. We've been waiting since October! :p
 

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Hm... those faces definitely look different. Even though the vanilla faces certainly seem pale enough to work for Scandinavians, I have no problem with more portrait packs -- portraits are my favorite kind of DLC.

That said, they should sell the mythical Mediterranean portraits already. We've been waiting since October! :p

Seconded, we want the mediterranean faces
 

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Lets get this straight, there is huge differences between Bokmål and Nynorsk and both are spoken norwegian. As a Dane i find understanding Bokmål very easy to understand for the obvious reason that it resembles danish with few differences and is the present day continuation of the medieval Dano-Norwegian dialect of Danish. (Denmark and Norway was ruled by the same king for more than 400 years, just so non-scandinavians can keep up)
Not as huge as one might think insofar as the parts used daily goes. Close enough that if people get a teacher in the norwegian class that isn't good enough, it'll lead to students mixing both up a lot. I know that by experience as it is what happened to me. As a result I hate both Bokmål and Nynorsk with a burning passion so bright I've ended up prefering to use -ENGLISH- above those two.

Bokmål and Nynorsk is quite frankly the worst thing that ever happened to this country. They should either be merged, one ditched or both ditched in favour of a new one as this division in the language is just biting us in the figurative arse.
 

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Not as huge as one might think insofar as the parts used daily goes. Close enough that if people get a teacher in the norwegian class that isn't good enough, it'll lead to students mixing both up a lot. I know that by experience as it is what happened to me. As a result I hate both Bokmål and Nynorsk with a burning passion so bright I've ended up prefering to use -ENGLISH- above those two.

Bokmål and Nynorsk is quite frankly the worst thing that ever happened to this country. They should either be merged, one ditched or both ditched in favour of a new one as this division in the language is just biting us in the figurative arse.

I was under the impression, that Nynorsk was mainly invented because of some nationalists thought bokmål was too close to danish & swedish?
 

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We know the clothes are based on the new DLC "the republic", but the faces are different and if you look at the liege he's not wearing any vanilla stuff and he's a feudal king. Also the little portrait of a countess wearing some kind of veil with a purplish color in her face doesn't look too Republic either, does she? What's so special about the URL?

This may have been mentioned before.

"/files/crusaderkings2_dlc_therepublic_screenshot_06.png"
 

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I was under the impression, that Nynorsk was mainly invented because of some nationalists thought bokmål was too close to danish & swedish?
It has been a while since I read up on him, but Ivar Aasen(hopefully I'm spelling his name correctly. I'm notoriously bad with names...) travelled around and studied the various norwegian dialects because he wanted to create a written language that was as close to the actual norwegian language as you could get it. Wether he knew of the guy behind bokmål at the time I don't know though. Most of the issues with the two came after this with people going back and forth on what to do with it all. The result is a mess leading to a ton of time wasted on teaching two written languages that could've gone to something a lot more important like courses dealing with mathemathics and various scientific studies(just to use that as an example). Or at the very least could've gone to a single one so more people were better taught in their own written language.

Also bokmål was lifted straight from danish and adjusted to be more 'norwegian'. Swedish was never used in its creation to my knowledge.
 

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It has been a while since I read up on him, but Ivar Aasen(hopefully I'm spelling his name correctly. I'm notoriously bad with names...) travelled around and studied the various norwegian dialects because he wanted to create a written language that was as close to the actual norwegian language as you could get it. Wether he knew of the guy behind bokmål at the time I don't know though. Most of the issues with the two came after this with people going back and forth on what to do with it all. The result is a mess leading to a ton of time wasted on teaching two written languages that could've gone to something a lot more important like courses dealing with mathemathics and various scientific studies(just to use that as an example). Or at the very least could've gone to a single one so more people were better taught in their own written language.

Also bokmål was lifted straight from danish and adjusted to be more 'norwegian'. Swedish was never used in its creation to my knowledge.

Ah i know, I just remember reading somewhere that some people thought it was too close to danish and swedish or something, but it might just be my memory failing me :)
 

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This may have been mentioned before.

"/files/crusaderkings2_dlc_therepublic_screenshot_06.png"

And how he had say... It doesn't help and isn't a answer. They clothes are from The Republic, yes. But they faces look different, then medditeran ones and I don't beliefe they have to do with The republic.
 

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Icelandic and Norwegian are West Norse while Danish and Swedish are East Norse, so it'd be understandable if Danish people could understand Swedish better than Norwegian. However IIRC Icelandic is the closest to Old Norse.

Those are old terms. We use them when speaking about Norse, which is the old language that isn't spoken anymore. It is more often divided into continental and island. This leaves Norwegian, Swedish and Danish in the same group. The intonation of Norwegian is more similar to that of Swedish, than that of Danish. The words are more Danish, which leaves Norwegian to be a middle language. I can't really speak on behalf of swedes and Danes, but from what I've heard, it's nigh impossible for them to understand each other. And for the record, unlike many other European countries, Norway has not chosen one standard spoken language (Like "Received Pronunciation" and "Hochdeutsch") which is why we also have two written languages to compensate so that everyone has a written language that resembles their actual dialect. Bokmål is the one that is heavily influenced by Danish, whilst Nynorsk has words that are more Swedish, though the pronunciation is still quite different.

As ofr me, I can understand Swedish almost with no issues, just a few words that are different (Rar in Swedish means Nice, whilst in Norwegian it means weird :| (correct me if I'm wrong)) Danish pronunciation is very different, and thus I struggle unless hey speak slowly and try to be as clear as possible. Regional dialect also differ for them, so western Swedish is naturally easier for me than eastern :)
 

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As ofr me, I can understand Swedish almost with no issues, just a few words that are different (Rar in Swedish means Nice, whilst in Norwegian it means weird :| (correct me if I'm wrong)) Danish pronunciation is very different, and thus I struggle unless hey speak slowly and try to be as clear as possible. Regional dialect also differ for them, so western Swedish is naturally easier for me than eastern :)

The original meaning of rar was unique / special / one of a kind in both Swedish and Norwegian.
It can still have the meaning unusual in Swedish (even if it mostly mean sweet/lovable) and you also sort of use it in the old way - as in saying that someone is a little "special".

In English the word (rare) has kept it's original meaning.

And I hope for a Scandinavian face pack!!!
 

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As ofr me, I can understand Swedish almost with no issues, just a few words that are different (Rar in Swedish means Nice, whilst in Norwegian it means weird :| (correct me if I'm wrong)) Danish pronunciation is very different, and thus I struggle unless hey speak slowly and try to be as clear as possible. Regional dialect also differ for them, so western Swedish is naturally easier for me than eastern :)

Oh, there are loads of words like that.

Swedish word "Rolig" means funny, but in Danish and Norwegian it's Calm. "By" means Village in Swedish, but City in Danish and Norwegian. Swedish word for City is "Stad" like the german "Stadt". I think Sweden borrowed many words from the German language, and changed them a bit, during the time we were still good friends. I don't think neither Denmark nor Norway had that connection with Germany that Sweden had.
 

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Oh, there are loads of words like that.

Swedish word "Rolig" means funny, but in Danish and Norwegian it's Calm. "By" means Village in Swedish, but City in Danish and Norwegian. Swedish word for City is "Stad" like the german "Stadt". I think Sweden borrowed many words from the German language, and changed them a bit, during the time we were still good friends. I don't think neither Denmark nor Norway had that connection with Germany that Sweden had.

We had quite the connection actually.. german was pretty much the spoken language of the nobility for a long while, and I've recently looked at some documents from the 17th century, looks extremely much like german :)
 

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And how he had say... It doesn't help and isn't a answer. They clothes are from The Republic, yes. But they faces look different, then medditeran ones and I don't beliefe they have to do with The republic.

I'll go get my translator.
 

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Sorry for the double post.

Is this possibly the faces that were mentioned? Or do they look different?

CK2 Russian Portraits
 

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We had quite the connection actually.. german was pretty much the spoken language of the nobility for a long while, and I've recently looked at some documents from the 17th century, looks extremely much like german :)

Well, I guess all of Scandinavia was wannabe German for some time. Imagine the slang of the time and the teens going all speaking half native and half German language, like it is today. ^^
 

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Yeah look at Gustav Adolphus, he even took pieces of Germany back to the north. He must've really liked that place. ;)

Most Germanic languages possess the ability to link words together to make other ones or a new one, so loaning words from any language is easy.
 
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