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Well, to a certain degree, and norwegian is mostly because they were under danish rule for some 400 years :)

Still extremely easy to read norwegian, but I must admit I have some trouble understanding norwegians from up north, and some of the Swedish i just don't understand at all.

(though it should be said, it's the same with people from western Jutland)
Haha, it's funny I live in northern sweden and it's q uite the opposite for me. I have issues with the language when they come from the southern parts of norway but the northern part I can understand perfectly fine
Speaking as someone who lives on the western coast of norway... I have more of an issue understanding some norwegian dialects(we have -LOT- of them. It is due to the mountains if I remember the explanation properly...) than I have problems with swedish and danish. Those two I can understand easily if they don't speak ridiculously fast. I just plain give up in some cases with our own dialects because the way they are spoken can be nigh incomprehensible.
 

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Guys, please don't make this into some racial/stereotype thread like the Russian one. People are diverse and doesn't look the same today as they did in the medieval ages due to migrations over the centuries and we just don't know how they looked back then. Be mature about it.

Norwegian and Danish is very easy to understand for some, but I could only understand if I read a danish text not listen to a speech because that's a lot harder. ^^
 

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Icelandic and Norwegian are West Norse while Danish and Swedish are East Norse, so it'd be understandable if Danish people could understand Swedish better than Norwegian. However IIRC Icelandic is the closest to Old Norse.
 

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Norway is better than Sweden, Denmark, and Finland combined.
 

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Icelandic and Norwegian are West Norse while Danish and Swedish are East Norse, so it'd be understandable if Danish people could understand Swedish better than Norwegian. However IIRC Icelandic is the closest to Old Norse.
I agree with this on the basis that Icelandic speakers are able to read the Old Norse sagas with relatively little difficulty.
 

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Icelandic and Norwegian are West Norse while Danish and Swedish are East Norse, so it'd be understandable if Danish people could understand Swedish better than Norwegian. However IIRC Icelandic is the closest to Old Norse.

1) While true on a technical, linguistic level it isn't necessarily true in reality that Danish-Swedish is closer than with Norwegians, as the Danes had a lot more German influence on their language than the rest of us. I, for one, find Norwegian far easier to understand than Danish.

2) East/West Norse were just small dialectical differences, they were still the same language (and culture isn't purely language either, it just tends to coincide). West-Norse was just a bit more isolated (thus: Iceland). For all intents and purposes they're the same at the start of the game, with the only serious difference being political affiliations.

If anything it should all be "Norse" cultured (with the religion renamed Ásatrú for "Belief in the Gods", wouldn't want "Norse Norse" shown) and possibly, if politically isolated from each other while also in greater contact with Europe, start to splinter around 1250ish at the earliest, as we already have Saxon->English events.

My mistake, I thought Elfdalian was extinct :rolleyes:

They're good fun.

"The peasants in the community here, apart from using rune staves, still today write their names and ownership marks with runic letters, as is seen on walls, corner stones, bowls, etc. Which one does not know to be still continued anywhere else in Sweden." -Carl von Linné, 1734.
 
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Icelandic and Norwegian are West Norse while Danish and Swedish are East Norse, so it'd be understandable if Danish people could understand Swedish better than Norwegian. However IIRC Icelandic is the closest to Old Norse.

Only part of western norway spoke western norse. Old norweigen is most often classified as part of East Norse.
 

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If anything it should all be "Norse" cultured (with the religion renamed Ásatrú for "Belief in the Gods", wouldn't want "Norse Norse" shown) and possibly, if politically isolated from each other while also in greater contact with Europe, start to splinter around 1250ish at the earliest, as we already have Saxon->English events.
I agree with this completely. And of course linguistic classifications aren't perfect as individual circumstances can affect things to a great deal.
On-topic; have the devs actually confirmed that this is a new portrait DLC?
 

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1) While true on a technical, linguistic level it isn't necessarily true in reality that Danish-Swedish is closer than with Norwegians, as the Danes had a lot more German influence on their language than the rest of us. I, for one, find Norwegian far easier to understand than Danish.

2) East/West Norse were just small dialectical differences, they were still the same language (and culture isn't purely language either, it just tends to coincide). West-Norse was just a bit more isolated (thus: Iceland). For all intents and purposes they're the same at the start of the game, with the only serious difference being political affiliations.

If anything it should all be "Norse" cultured (with the religion renamed Ásatrú for "Belief in the Gods", wouldn't want "Norse Norse" shown) and possibly, if politically isolated from each other while also in greater contact with Europe, start to splinter around 1250ish at the earliest, as we already have Saxon->English events.



They're good fun.

"The peasants in the community here, apart from using rune staves, still today write their names and ownership marks with runic letters, as is seen on walls, corner stones, bowls, etc. Which one does not know to be still continued anywhere else in Sweden." -Carl von Linné, 1734.

I find norwegian considerably easier to understand if they're from south/southwest, while the northeastern I have a very hard time understanding.

Swedish is a different matter, I can barely understand any of it if spoken at a normal speed.

Reading Norwegian (Bokmål that is) is really easy, but there's a reason for that :p
 

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Lets get this straight, there is huge differences between Bokmål and Nynorsk and both are spoken norwegian. As a Dane i find understanding Bokmål very easy to understand for the obvious reason that it resembles danish with few differences and is the present day continuation of the medieval Dano-Norwegian dialect of Danish. (Denmark and Norway was ruled by the same king for more than 400 years, just so non-scandinavians can keep up)