Sweden, Norway or Denamrk to form Scandinavia?
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Eventually, yes. Killing off England removes a major naval and trade competitor. It also gives you even more coastline, which is good for your navy. It's particularly good if you can also dominate and move to the Antwerp node (+ dominate Lübeck), as then all the trade from Britain will automatically flow into your pockets with no merchants required (plus you can steal trade from Bordeaux without a merchant).
Well I did as you guys said and DOWed Scotland without CB (lol) let´s see how that Works out later 
Think it´s a good idea to stop England´s expansion as well.
One person asked about trade nodes - North Sea can be directed to Lubeck and thus it´s very useful to control.
Think it´s a good idea to stop England´s expansion as well.One person asked about trade nodes - North Sea can be directed to Lubeck and thus it´s very useful to control.
Easy : Danes - just take Baltic lands and Integrate
Medium : Swedes - gain Independence and conquer. Waiting for Swedish Reforms is recommended
Hard : Norwegians - same as above, but with no events and dirt poor land, colonization is easier though.
Extreme : Gotlanders - The best way to form Scandinavia
Medium : Swedes - gain Independence and conquer. Waiting for Swedish Reforms is recommended
Hard : Norwegians - same as above, but with no events and dirt poor land, colonization is easier though.
Extreme : Gotlanders - The best way to form Scandinavia
Ok... run into a stone here.
Lithuania broke PU with Poland (Poland was negative prestige)... and the **** *** ***** lithunianas supported Sweden Independence! Dafuq
How that feature works? How can I stop it?
Lithuania broke PU with Poland (Poland was negative prestige)... and the **** *** ***** lithunianas supported Sweden Independence! Dafuq
How that feature works? How can I stop it?
Hudson bay now projects into Cheasepeak Bay. On the bright side, Gulf of st. lawrence can project directly into North Europe independently of the Western Europe Node. Therefore, the Scandinavian and British regions are actually some of the few nations that can still benefit more directly from colonial expansion, instead of having to compete in Western Europe.
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Both Hudson Bay and Chesapeake Bay can send trade to Gulf of St. Lawrence, and St. Lawrence goes to North Sea. Eastern Canada is the key to any North American trade strategy that bypasses WETN.
Yeah, fixed. I forgot the new naming scheme. The important thing is that GB and Scandinavia can bypass WE.
Or you could set your starting date to 20th of June 1448. Sweden is independent then. I'd say overall it's easier to get going as Sweden that way. You can get allies for your first war against Denmark and Norway, and also take Novgorod before Muscovy.
Eh, that's almost four lost years. You're also probably locked into your first NI set with that date as well. While that's probably the best date for a Sweden start, it's not necessarily the best way to form Scandinavia.
Yeah, for Scandinavia Sweden isn't that great of a choice anyway. As for Sweden itself, idea groups are still completely free at that date, I just checked it to make sure. Not much happens in 4 game years, even Europe is pretty much the same. You may lose some time but all things considered it's by far better start as you get going a lot faster. So by 1460 you should be a lot better off than if you started at 1444. Plus I rarely play all the way to 1821, so few years at the beginning don't matter that much.