Sweden is overpowered or maybe not?

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Lets look at the states (Sort by country and look at Swedish states): http://www.hoi4wiki.com/List_of_states

I counted to 29 factory slots in 1936. With late game tech and national focuses Sweden can have over 60 factories, enough for the 5th tech slot without any need for conquest. In terms of population Sweden probably have amongst the most factory slots of any country.

Sweden produce all tungsten, steel and chromium it could ever want (atleast early game) so 3 out of 6 resources which is very good.

http://www.hoi4wiki.com/List_of_companies
Sweden have 3 naval companies (very few minors have naval companies with effects), it is one of the only three countries that have a Raiding fleet designer, one out of four that have a Coastal Defense fleet designer and one out of five that have a Atlantic fleet designer. It actually have better naval companies then France and Italy.

The only thing Sweden really lacks are manpower but it have potential to build a very good navy or airforce because of its very strong production capacity.
 
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Now all we need is a norse or scandinavian foci pack for it to be super awesome :D
 
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A late game Sweden can have more factories then what France start with and about 1/3 of USA starting factories. Per population Sweden can outproduce all majors. Sweden did never really mobilize that much because it never got into war, it could probably have produce alot if really tried to but I think it do have a bit unrealistic many factories.
 
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Im not sure if its overpowered but IRL the Swedish armed forces in 43 and onwards until the late fities were really awsome. The only thing that they really didnt have were really good tanks. In the mid fifties the Swedish airforce was said to be the forth largest in the world. They also had a neuclear program that probably could have had nukes in the mid fifties if they had put their mind to it.
 
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Im not sure if its overpowered but IRL the Swedish armed forces in 43 and onwards until the late fities were really awsome. The only thing that they really didnt have were really good tanks. In the mid fifties the Swedish airforce was said to be the forth largest in the world. They also had a neuclear program that probably could have had nukes in the mid fifties if they had put their mind to it.

I just wish we could enable SAAB as an aircraft manufacturer and get research bonus to tech the J35-Draken ahead of time in HOI IV.

Research was started in 49 I read somwhere, so it's not completely out of the question as the 1950 jet fighter model.
 

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Sweden has been decently rich for a long time, past WWI they had little internal or external instability, reasonable that they have high factory counts.
 
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Well I know what country I am going to invade.
 
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Having better naval companies then Italy and France is maybe atleast a bit over the top. Or rather Italy and Frace should be given naval companies while Sweden should keep the once it haves.
 
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Sweden is ALWAYS overpowered in Paradox games... its their MO.
just like stupid comet sightings
 
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I think sweden should Belgium and Sweden should have about the same. The GDP of Belgium is higher but I would say that Sweden had more heavy industry at least in % of the GDP
 

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Sweden needs all its factories to produce equipment so they can give them to Finland when Russia starts the Winter war.
 

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They need LOTS of civilian factories to make all of that furniture ;)
 
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Hungary only got 1 unique manufacturer, and Romania got Polish PZinż as a tank manufacturer o_O ??