Forget about supporting rebels they are meaningless. How about a mission to support civil war?
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That would be fun, and also realistic. A very good idea. This game could use some more diplomatic actions, because right now you can almost ignore diplomacy completely and not suffer from it.
Or a mission to disrupt trade routes. If Carthage only has 1 trade route set up for priceless Iron, it would be cool to disrupt this route for a couple of months.
I agree that diplomacy needs to be expanded on for the majority of people playing EU:Rome.
I myself care little for diplomacy and just want to place all nations under my boot.
I agree that diplomacy needs to be expanded on for the majority of people playing EU:Rome.
I myself care little for diplomacy and just want to place all nations under my boot.
I was surprised that you were not given the option to support the rebel faction during a civil war. I hope they put this in.
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Uhh... you can ally with the civil war faction and support the rebels. I know I did this playing Egypt against the Seluecid. The rebels should properly be more active in seeking outside aid though.
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....of your own country, not someone else's. That was my point. Of course you can support rebels of another country.
Yes of course, but how about supporting them secretly? I would like to lend them troops like in Ricky and HoI2. It should perhaps give the loyalists a CB on me if they find out. Perhaps there could be a percentage chance of my troops being identified as mine depending on how often they fight. Think of all the possibilitiesSute]{h said:
I second both motions!
Also, it should be possible to ask/pressure a country into trading a resource to you rather than your rival/a random other country!!
For example, you should be able to say that you want to trade some grain from one of your provinces + 0.10 gold per month for another nations Iron. Or you should pressure a country to stop trading with your rival (embargo) for fear of your invasion!
At the very least, you should be able to offer a country to establish a trade route even if it does not have any slots available. This will give it the option of reconsidering its position, abandoning the old trade route and establishing a new one!!
The current system of first come first served is a bit weird and unrealistic, imho.
Also, it should be possible to ask/pressure a country into trading a resource to you rather than your rival/a random other country!!
For example, you should be able to say that you want to trade some grain from one of your provinces + 0.10 gold per month for another nations Iron. Or you should pressure a country to stop trading with your rival (embargo) for fear of your invasion!
At the very least, you should be able to offer a country to establish a trade route even if it does not have any slots available. This will give it the option of reconsidering its position, abandoning the old trade route and establishing a new one!!
The current system of first come first served is a bit weird and unrealistic, imho.
nka389 said:I second both motions!
Also, it should be possible to ask/pressure a country into trading a resource to you rather than your rival/a random other country!!
For example, you should be able to say that you want to trade some grain from one of your provinces + 0.10 gold per month for another nations Iron. Or you should pressure a country to stop trading with your rival (embargo) for fear of your invasion!
At the very least, you should be able to offer a country to establish a trade route even if it does not have any slots available. This will give it the option of reconsidering its position, abandoning the old trade route and establishing a new one!!
The current system of first come first served is a bit weird and unrealistic, imho.
That is a great idea and it would add to trade. Right now I usually just end up with all internal trade within 50 years or something like that.
Definitely agree with all of the suggestions here. More diplo options are needed.
I also wish there could be some ways to convince other countries to break their ties (trade wise or alliance wise) with another. I'd like to be able to get some of the allied countries of Macedonia to side with me (a minor) instead of with them so we can take down Macedonia.
I also wish there could be some ways to convince other countries to break their ties (trade wise or alliance wise) with another. I'd like to be able to get some of the allied countries of Macedonia to side with me (a minor) instead of with them so we can take down Macedonia.
Lionel-Richie said:
I usually try to found out who is allied with the Greek minors but not with Macedonia. Sometimes say Crete or Rhodes are allied with 3 mainland Greek minors. So I just declare war on Crete and either annex the Greek minors or force them to pay tribute. Then if you war Macedonia either the minors are annexed or they are at truce with you and will not be able to back Macedonia in a war.
While I haven't coded it yet, version .15 or so will have a bit of this ... Indirect-control factions will work to temporarily disrupt the resources of neighboring nations whom they have poor relations with, representing the sabotage or raiding of resource gathering or producing regions; and there will be an event chain supporting low-loyalty characters friendly towards your culture in countries your relations are low with, that can end with a civil war and set relations between you and the civil war faction to 200, with further event-based aid - I don't know if they've finally reinstituted the ability to ally via events, though I doubt it ^_^0 . It would be nice if they eventually did...
That said, event-based diplomacy really isn't the same. It would be nice to see some of it more readily directed, rather than at the whim of mtth.
... Indirect-control factions will work to temporarily disrupt the resources of neighboring nations whom they have poor relations with, representing the sabotage or raiding of resource gathering or producing regions; and there will be an event chain supporting low-loyalty characters friendly towards your culture in countries your relations are low with, that can end with a civil war and set relations between you and the civil war faction to 200, with further event-based aid - I don't know if they've finally reinstituted the ability to ally via events, though I doubt it ^_^0 . It would be nice if they eventually did...That said, event-based diplomacy really isn't the same. It would be nice to see some of it more readily directed, rather than at the whim of mtth.