Supply Guide up in FAQ Section

[bbasgen]

Maybe it was a fix for supply problems, but unless the IC province sits directly on a supply line, the supplies often appear to move back home. Possibly minus supply tax, just to make it more "fun".

Curious. So the idea being that it opens a supply network in a country to keep active supply lines going to different parts of the country? That makes sense -- instead of having to wait for supply lines to establish themselves across the country, some predefined lines are already in place.

 

[sbr]

Curious. So the idea being that it opens a supply network in a country to keep active supply lines going to different parts of the country? That makes sense -- instead of having to wait for supply lines to establish themselves across the country, some predefined lines are already in place.

IIRC, this fix happened before they gave the capital and surrounding provinces unlimited supply throughput. With supplies appearing in all IC provinces it was supposed to reduce the bottleneck at the capital. If those supplies turn around and flow back to the capital they aren't doing anything at all anymore.

 

[womble]

I think what he is saying is that the supplies will head towards the supply center in general but will be siphoned off as they go to the units in need.

It is already quite clear that any province with excess supply will provide supply to provinces which need supply and which are further from the supply source. Only supply surplus to requests will reach the supply centre.

 

[bbasgen]

IIRC, this fix happened before they gave the capital and surrounding provinces unlimited supply throughput.

Do you have any more details on this? Do just the provinces that are directly connected to the capital have unlimited throughput?

If those supplies turn around and flow back to the capital they aren't doing anything at all anymore.

I'm not sure that they are flowing back. When I start a game in 1.4 just to test, every supply line to an IC source remains blue, e.g. in surplus. It is a nominal amount of supplies that go to the IC, but the flow seems to remain open despite the surplus.

 

[sbr]

Do you have any more details on this? Do just the provinces that are directly connected to the capital have unlimited throughput?

It would be in one of the patch change notes, I will see if I can find it but that was my understanding.

I'm not sure that they are flowing back. When I start a game in 1.4 just to test, every supply line to an IC source remains blue, e.g. in surplus. It is a nominal amount of supplies that go to the IC, but the flow seems to remain open despite the surplus.

Yeah according to womble it only goes back if it is true surplus, I wasn't sure as I haven't spent much time with the game.

 

[sbr]

I can;t find it in the notes for 1.4 or 1.3, I am rather certain they made that change though. Can anyone else confirm it?

 

[JASGripen]

I have added all the insight Doomark provides to the Wiki, and tightened up the article in various other ways:

http://www.paradoxian.org/hoi3wiki/Logistics_reference

Good job, more people should be like you!

 

[womble]

Maybe it was a fix for supply problems, but unless the IC province sits directly on a supply line, the supplies often appear to move back home. Possibly minus supply tax, just to make it more "fun".

The only tests I've seen where supply from IC was visible and distinct were done in Switzerland and did not convince me that the "supplies from IC provinces head straight back to the Supply Centre regardless" wasn't an artefact of the particular situation. While watching excess supply return to the SC, I didn't detect any tax being deducted.

 

[Slan]

It may have been in Switzerland, but I can't think of any other factors disturbing the experiment. What's for sure, there's absolutely no cap on supplies moving back to the supply center, and there's no tax on it either. These are only used for supplies going towards demand.

 

[Slan]

I'm not sure that they are flowing back. When I start a game in 1.4 just to test, every supply line to an IC source remains blue, e.g. in surplus. It is a nominal amount of supplies that go to the IC, but the flow seems to remain open despite the surplus.

It remains green because it is constantly fed. You can check this by changing the % of IC you spend on supplies.

 

[Jazumir]

This thread reminds me of ´Lost´. You know, all the mysteries and unknowns...

 

[bbasgen]

What's for sure, there's absolutely no cap on supplies moving back to the supply center, and there's no tax on it either. These are only used for supplies going towards demand.

Does anyone know what the time period is for when a supply surplus will be sent back? If I had to guess, I would think 30 days.

 

[Slan]

Does anyone know what the time period is for when a supply surplus will be sent back? If I had to guess, I would think 30 days.

What do you mean? I don't think there's a waiting period at all. Why would there be any?

 

[Kallocain]

I added a link to the Paradoxian wiki in the FAQ thread.
They have a rather extensive guide on the subject, including advice on how to use the system. It is not made by Paradox, so if you want to praise, change or discuss the content, don't look at me.

 

[ar73]

I added a link to the Paradoxian wiki in the FAQ thread.
They have a rather extensive guide on the subject, including advice on how to use the system. It is not made by Paradox, so if you want to praise, change or discuss the content, don't look at me.

Uhm ...

 

[Sernaton]

My interpretation of this guide is that PI will not change the system. This is really regrettable IMHO.

There are some concepts there that are ugly - single supply centers - supply taxes the further from the supply center. A pity, as some of them are sound - the creation of supplies in IC provinces, the moving of supplies from supply to demand provinces, the infrastructure cap, all these make sense. But in such a system ALL needs to fit together, and still doesn't, and apparently will be not changed in the expansion.

I can understand that bad design decisions can not be changed on patches, but an expansion is the perfect opportunity.

To be constructive, I will also join those voices that would like multiple supply centers, perhaps linking them to the HQ system to give it a bit more "soul".

 

[Slan]

My interpretation of this guide is that PI will not change the system. This is really regrettable IMHO.

There are some concepts there that are ugly - single supply centers - supply taxes the further from the supply center. A pity, as some of them are sound - the creation of supplies in IC provinces, the moving of supplies from supply to demand provinces, the infrastructure cap, all these make sense. But in such a system ALL needs to fit together, and still doesn't, and apparently will be not changed in the expansion.

I can understand that bad design decisions can not be changed on patches, but an expansion is the perfect opportunity.

To be constructive, I will also join those voices that would like multiple supply centers, perhaps linking them to the HQ system to give it a bit more "soul".

I was wondering, what exactly do you think a supply center does?

 

[Sernaton]

I was wondering, what exactly do you think a supply center does?

In the doc is quite well explained.

 

[Slan]

In the doc is quite well explained.

Then why is it so important how many of them are? It only collects the leftover that your troops don't need or can't get because of the limiting factor of infrastructure.

 

[lambrf]

Then why is it so important how many of them are? It only collects the leftover that your troops don't need or can't get because of the limiting factor of infrastructure.

What about the distance? If you only have one, distance quickly become huge.
With, e.g., one for each theatre, distances are reduced.