Supply depots

[GuderianTA]

i hope i did not miss this, but are there buildable supply dumps?
Building or organizing dump closer to the battle should limit supply penalties to an extent, and also allow an player to set objectives to capture them.
Intel would provide some ides of where they are and this would also allow huge pockets (ie Stalingrad) to survive to pose a threat. Although i know units hold their own supply already, this would allow them, again, to be more a threat.
It seems from the screens that depots are not in.......

 

[Thomas Kenobi]

As far as i can tell, the only way to "build" a supply depot, would be to create a convoy ending in that province. So that means, you can only create depots in coastal provinces with ports. On the other hand, since every land province through which supplies move, stores some of those supplies, we could assume that they all have a small depot in them.

 

[GuderianTA]

yes...true.... but if there are no depots, this would be a big mistake i think....PI made so many strides with logistics and not to include supply dumps would be dumb. again read the first post to see what i am talking about.

 

[zeekater]

You are correct, they are not in

The entire supply system is automated. The question has come up quite a few times already.

 

[Thomas Kenobi]

I was talking about what seems to be in the game already, not offering an opinion. I would like to have the ability sometimes to set up supply depots manually, but that would be very rare. In most cases it would just be a micro hassle. After all, I don't think that the positioning of supply depots was often a strategic level decision. I'd imagine it was more up to the local commanders.

 

[Lazy_Boy]

It seems like supply depots would be very easy to add if they just acted like a buffer in the supply line. Fills up when supply lines are good and drains when the draw from the nearby units exceeds the depots draw.

From what I can tell units are already treated just like that with the supplies they carry with them. Supply depots would just be another buffer in the line to help troops maintain fighting longer.

 

[Balesir]

Maybe it will be possible to mod in a slow moving unit with a large supply capacity...

 

[GuderianTA]

dumps should really be in the game.... i cant believe there not.... It would add some sort of objective in an attack... not just taking provs...
the increase of importance of convoys is great news... what about the land portion though?

Jordan... please make me feel better about all this

 

[unmerged(104627)]

I completely agree with the OP. It can be as simple as right-clicking on a province and saying "build supply depot". For each level of supply depot, it will buffer more supplies and fuel. There can be a checkbox to have the depot stop buffering supplies if you choose.

This would only be an option on the part of the player in addition to the given logistics system. I love the idea. It can change the whole dynamics of the game if the player can anticipate and well prepare for a Kesselkampf.

 

[Sirveri]

Isn't this already abstracted through the infrastructure.

If you want to build a supply dump to give your units at the front better supply, upgrade the surrounding infrastructure, and those units will get more supplies.

 

[jbone567]

One huge thing to do with supply dumps is that if I'm fighting in Africa as britain it makes no sense that my supplies come from britain if they already are being produced in Africa. You should be able to set up supply dumps and have all local provices feed to that dump. It could still be largely automatic there wouldn't be all that much management required unless your front is moving rapidly. But if your front is moving rapidly then managing supplies should be taxing cause logistics should be hard for rapid advances.

 

[King]

No there are no buildable supply dumps

 

[zeekater]

Putting a division on offensive supply is almost the same

If that is still in HoI3, I haven't seen a screenshot yet with the icon on it, or haven't looked closely enough.

 

[GuderianTA]

will it be modifiable though?

 

[zeekater]

will it be modifiable though?

Since it isn't in at all, there won't be anything you can modify I guess

 

[King]

Since it isn't in at all, there won't be anything you can modify I guess

basically

 

[PB-DK]

well that pretty much dooms the italian defence of ethiopia and eritrea (1940-41) completely since there is no buildup of supplies and warmateriel possible within the engine... (and other situations similar to this, like the japs in the pacific e.t.c)

well suppose we will just have to lobby for supply dumps in a later patch or expansion

 

[jbone567]

I have very much enjoyed the HOI series over the years and hoi2 was a huge step up from the original. I have a feeling that HOI 3 will be the same but I must say I hate the idea of centralized supplies and its a rather large disappointment for me.

 

[JakMezak]

Well there's always the chance that beta testing will reveal supply depots or some similar mechanism to be a necessary feature for overseas campaigns and situations like you, PB-DK, are talking about.

 

[GuderianTA]

agreed. centralized supplies are quite terrible... but i guess if they make the game near perfect, they wont need to make an expansion. True that dumps wont even be a micro hassle. it could be as easy as right clicking and building one like one would build an airbase.

someone said that it could be as easy as modding a very slow moving unit with a high supply capacity. wait though...... how would other units draw supply from this unit though? crap