Supply and demand?

[marat271]

Hello, recently I've begun an Aztec game, and around 40-50% of all my provinces produce coffee. And I'm interested in knowing, how much will the price fluctuate for coffee over the course of the game. In the ledger page I found a page where there was supply and demand for trade goods. The supply for coffee was 24% and demand was 164, is this the reason for the 50 price value? And as more provinces with coffee get connected to European COT's, will the price fall?

Is coffee good all game long, or just for the first 100-200 years?

Thanks in advance.

 

[DDRJake]

From the wiki

Base Price: 15
Demand is affected by:

- Province has a dock, a dry dock, a grand shipyard, a naval arsenal, or a naval base: +50% each
- Province owner has prestige ≥ 50: +50%

Tip: As with all the "colonial goods", supply can be steady by colonizing the right provinces, while demand can be hugely influenced by building buildings from the governmental or navy tier. Since you and your European neighbors will keep building those improvements (especially marketplaces!) in large parts of the world, expect high prices anyway. Mind that your prestige rating also influences the demand quite profound (+60 % for 50 prestige rating or more). Avoid revolt risk, as it comes with a large demand hit (-50 %).

As with all goods, price is:

P = Pb * ( 225% - s ) * d

P - trade price of the good
Pb - base price of the good
d - demand (in %) - it can be increased by province improvements and other good-specific factors
s - supply (in %) - this is determined by the globally produced amount of that good

d and s have minimum value of 1% and maximum of 200%

s = SUM(units*supply_modifier) # summed over all provinces that produces the goods type

d = SUM(taxvalue*demand_modifier/1000) # summed over all provinces

 

[Kurblius]

Does the formation of the HRE seriously affect demand for colonial goods, seeing how so many provinces lose their buildings (other than forts) when it forms?

 

[marat271]

From the wiki

Base Price: 15
Demand is affected by:

- Province has a dock, a dry dock, a grand shipyard, a naval arsenal, or a naval base: +50% each
- Province owner has prestige ≥ 50: +50%

Tip: As with all the "colonial goods", supply can be steady by colonizing the right provinces, while demand can be hugely influenced by building buildings from the governmental or navy tier. Since you and your European neighbors will keep building those improvements (especially marketplaces!) in large parts of the world, expect high prices anyway. Mind that your prestige rating also influences the demand quite profound (+60 % for 50 prestige rating or more). Avoid revolt risk, as it comes with a large demand hit (-50 %).

As with all goods, price is:

P = Pb * ( 225% - s ) * d

P - trade price of the good
Pb - base price of the good
d - demand (in %) - it can be increased by province improvements and other good-specific factors
s - supply (in %) - this is determined by the globally produced amount of that good

d and s have minimum value of 1% and maximum of 200%

s = SUM(units*supply_modifier) # summed over all provinces that produces the goods type

d = SUM(taxvalue*demand_modifier/1000) # summed over all provinces

You didn't really answer my question....

 

[Andy 1984]

It will be a great good all game long. The price-loss by colonizing a few additional provinces (or a lot of additional provinces) will definitly be offset by the constant adding of buildings by the AI. That's at least what my experiences learn me.

 

[Kurblius]

Coffee will always be at the top, but later in the game more goods will outperform it. The price of copper, for example, will skyrocket when large colonial empires go to war.

 

[unmerged(389675)]

Coffee will always be at the top, but later in the game more goods will outperform it. The price of copper, for example, will skyrocket when large colonial empires go to war.

Could you explain that a bit more Kurb? I'd be curious to know more of the mechanic that you seem to be referring to....

 

[Slym]

The demand modifiers are for countries that have artillery and are at war.

So basically when big, high-tech European countries go to war, the price of copper will go up.

 

[Fronzel]

Could you explain that a bit more Kurb? I'd be curious to know more of the mechanic that you seem to be referring to....

All the demand modifiers are in the wiki link that was posted.

 

[lukew]

You didn't really answer my question....

Looked to me like he answered it very well.

 

[unmerged(389675)]

Thanks Slym -- helpful! [I was unaware that there were *goods-specific* demand mods, which is now nice to know -- heretofore I've not been much of a trader]

Fronz -- not so helpful ;-)

The demand modifiers are for countries that have artillery and are at war.

So basically when big, high-tech European countries go to war, the price of copper will go up.