Super Ship - Military Dictatorship

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But that's also dumb. Why can't other types of government make an "elite" assault army, whatever elite is supposed to mean, if they have the resources? Why can't other forms of governments make great wonders if they have the resources?
Because normally using Resources for good reasons is more important(You know instead of building your tomb when you are 20 years of age you build desperately needed farms on a planet)
 
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All I know is that the concept of one particular government type getting its own class of ships is dumb. It should b a case of military dictatorship's having a larger chance of being able to research military hardware, including larger ships.
May have been addressed. But I'm thinking this ship is much in line with the Monumental Effort of Tombs and Giant Gardens. It's suppose to represent a massive achievement and monument to the power of the ruler.

On the broken backs of his populace.

Or their AI shlubs.
 
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The other thing that might have inspired this are the Yamato class battleships and Nazi super-weapons in general. Hitler definitely had super-battleships on the drawing board and may even have built them if the general war hadn't happened a bit earlier than he expected. The H-39 ships even started construction:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-class_battleship_proposals

The H-class was well within reasons compared to the plans of other nations, though. The later designs were only studies and were never intended to be built.
 

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Are we talking about different ship model or just battleship with better stats?
I'm pretty sure it's more like the latter. An ordinary ship designed in the usual way, but making it bigger just scales up the stats and the model. Not a whole unique ship class. Keep in mind that the ship is, after all, described as bigger. That is a much different thing than being a separate class.

If the type of your government is changing and you built some of those special ships or buildings: Are they going to vanish? If I built a mausoleum and then changed to a military dictatorship, is this building going to stay and is it going to grant the same bonuses?
When the ruler who builds them dies, they don't vanish. So why should then when you change government types? You wouldn't be able to build more though.

Who says I'm so hard up on resources?
If you have enough resources that you don't need to make choices in where you spend, that means it's time to expand.
 

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Or build some really cool stuff, like starships of awesome. ;)
 

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I have a feeling that the oversized ship will not be upgradable, if you're allowed to build one per leader lifetime, otherwise you'll end up with 30 fully upgraded massive Titans. Either that or you can upgrade it, but only one can exist on the map at a time, so like the Titan in SoaSE, or the death star in the new MoO.

Personally I hope it's the first, so I get to choose to scrap old outdated ships, while keeping some as museum ships. Such as those that are named after an awesome leader or a ship that fought really well during a massive war. Kind of like what we're doing with ships like HMS Victory.
 
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The way I've understood the description is that you can only build a megaship once per reign and if it gets blown up you don't get a new one. This would make each megaship essentially irreplaceble.
 

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That ship is the reason I've chosen that government. Nothing else says how great and developed your civilization is than Biggest Baddest Meanest ship there is. Pretty obvious actually.;)
 

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I'm pretty sure the Mausoleum will be like the Planetary Combat Arena we saw, a Planet Unique that isn't Empire Unique. So sadly, probably not gonna be able to carpet a city with mausoleums.

No clue as to whether we lose the bonuses of special ships or buildings if we change empire types.
 

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I'm pretty sure the Mausoleum will be like the Planetary Combat Arena we saw, a Planet Unique that isn't Empire Unique. So sadly, probably not gonna be able to carpet a city with mausoleums.
Considering that we can do it once per ruler life, and there's sharply diminishing returns with each new one, I don't see why they'd impose that additional arbitrary limit.
 

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I just have a funny feeling that people will treat their oversized ships the same way the great nations treated their dreadnaughts in WWI, avoid puting them into combat just incase they get destroyed. :p

If I remember the elite armies/ships can be built once per leader and they're named after said leader or am I wrong?
 

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Seems that you're right.

IIRC, in WW2 the super-battleships were used ... and sunk.

Granted, it'd be amusing to field Montana-class SBBs as Space 'Murica.
 

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Seems that you're right.

IIRC, in WW2 the super-battleships were used ... and sunk.

Granted, it'd be amusing to field Montana-class SBBs as Space 'Murica.
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