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is there a bitter peace-like event included in the mod? or any event that ends the war without one of the two contenders being puppeted or annexed? i skimmed through the event files of both germany and ussr but haven't seen it.
 

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SurfacingU-Boot said:
is there a bitter peace-like event included in the mod? or any event that ends the war without one of the two contenders being puppeted or annexed? i skimmed through the event files of both germany and ussr but haven't seen it.

Give a look at new_order_east.txt event file
 

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Luxor said:
Give a look at new_order_east.txt event file

Ok checked it. let me see if i got it right:

(FOR USSR asks for terms)

Paris must not be french

Reichskommisariat moskau must not exist (whatever that means since i didn't install reikskommissariats. what if it exists anyway? is there any peace event?)

Soviets must have lost control of either (leningrad, stalingrad, moscow) or (leningrad, stalingrad, baku) or (leningrad, moscow, baku) or (stalingrad, moscow, baku)

the event isn't random and conditions are checked for every week.

what do lost_vp and lost_vc mean though? that sovs must be down to 50 of both?

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SurfacingU-Boot said:
Ok checked it. let me see if i got it right:

(FOR USSR asks for terms)

Paris must not be french

Reichskommisariat moskau must not exist (whatever that means since i didn't install reikskommissariats. what if it exists anyway? is there any peace event?)

Soviets must have lost control of either (leningrad, stalingrad, moscow) or (leningrad, stalingrad, baku) or (leningrad, moscow, baku) or (stalingrad, moscow, baku)

the event isn't random and conditions are checked for every week.

what do lost_vp and lost_vc mean though? that sovs must be down to 50 of both?

thanks!

Creation of Reichskommisariat moskau is an event. You are asked to create it or not. If you create it USSR will secede some provinces near Moscow to Germany, thus creating a civil administration of this area.

lost_vp means SOV must have lost an overall 50% of its victory provinces points. lost_ic means the total of national IC points that must be lost.

All other considerations you did are correct.
 

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Luxor said:
Creation of Reichskommisariat moskau is an event. You are asked to create it or not. If you create it USSR will secede some provinces near Moscow to Germany, thus creating a civil administration of this area.

lost_vp means SOV must have lost an overall 50% of its victory provinces points. lost_ic means the total of national IC points that must be lost.

All other considerations you did are correct.

so if reichskommissariat moskau is created there can be no peace with ussr until it's undone?
 

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so if reichskommissariat moskau is created there can be no peace with ussr until it's undone?
Correct. Best thing is you don't create it at all when asked or even better you choose an alternate invasion policy when you get into war vs USSR.
 

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Correct. Best thing is you don't create it at all when asked or even better you choose an alternate invasion policy when you get into war vs USSR.

i experimented a bit with the event: in my latest save game i had conquered stalingrad, moscow and leningrad. instead of going south towards baku from stalingrad, i moved east toward the new capitol, kujbysjev, and conquered it then moved on to magnitogorsk and tjeljabinsk, all provinces rather rich in ic hoping to speed up the trigger of the peace event. since it would't fire, i decded to check it. i lowered the treshold to 32 % of lost ic and the event finally fired (i don't even want to consider how many more provinces one has to conquer to reach 50%). i then went on to experiment a bit more. i went back to the original save game and i fired the reichskommissariat ostland and ukraine events, and created them, annexing those territories (previously i had gone with "leave the area under military administration, so ussr still owned them). i then noticed that for the peace event to fire i had to lower the lost_ic limit down to 27%, 5 points below the previous limit. so creating the kommissariats actually makes the task harder (you have to press even further and conquer even more ground, because the annexxed territories apparently do not count towards the lost ic ratio). i guess same goes with the other invasion policies since they all seem to create new nations out of ussr provinces. maybe this 50% limit is too high? compared to the conditions for the surrender of the allies this takes much longer. the allies had surrendered by summer 1944, and i just let the italians do the work in egypt, while i had previously took care of british islands. in summer 1945 i'm still figthing with ussr.

right now i am playing a very hard/furious game. ussr, while far from having lost 50% (32% as i stated above, actually) of it's original ic is on it's knees (no man power left, and it regenerates at 1/3.5 the speed of german man power, no supplies left and not enough ic to sustain the whole army). i guess i could watch them starve and push a little further any now and then. would be simpler if they just "threw in the towel" :rolleyes:

sorry if i sound over-critical. i love this ai mod, really! :)

oh just one more small thing. before i started playing around with events (2 years in game terms) the "RK OStland - Gomel added" event fired even if i had not created the Kommissariat. maybe there's need to look into this event trigger?