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Great job taking Leningrad, that will hurt the Soviets quite a bit.
Lovely map too, looks great!

Thanks and let's hope they are hurt, but this is just one obstacle to take, there are a lot more and probably a lot more challenging. Especially with the low manpower it is safe to say that I am still far from reaching my objective.

That resource modifier is rather high :eek:

Nice job taking it though, yeah. That map gif is actually amazing :eek:

It is a high modifier, but that casualties I suffered need some compensation ;).

Yeah, the map, I thought of trying something different for a change and I am actually quite pleased with it. So I will use it more often I think :D. Btw, it is actually a 1978 map of Leningrad, but who cares ;).
 

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Lake Ladoga and Tosno - phase 1

With the Germans securing the southern part, Mannerheim came up with the ambitious idea to make Lake Ladoga a “Finnish” lake, one of many but surely it would be the largest lake within Finland’s borders. The whole plan was depending on Germany’s progression and their ability to punch a hole in Soviet defences.

The first phase was to secure the border along the Volkhov River, east of Leningrad, meaning 1st Corps would have to take Tosno and Schlissenburg. That way 2nd Corps would be free to join 3rd Corps on the other side of Lake Ladoga and in turn 4th Corps would be free to move north to Kuhmo where one division of 4th Corps was defending the border with the Soviet Union.

Second phase would be 2nd Corps, after relocation, move towards the Svir River that runs between Lake Ladoga and Lake Onega. Meanwhile, 3rd Corps would have to cut off Soviet troops by moving towards Petrozavodsk. The Shuya River would offer enough defences against any Soviet counter attacks.

Third Phase would be securing the south-western shores of Lake Ladoga, though this phase was very much depending on any progression from German side. In Mannerheim’s plan, the German forces were to secure the southern border as Finland simply lacked the troops to do so.

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Mannerheim’s plan

The first phase was not really going as planned initially. The Soviet Union offered fierce resistance and had no intention to concede Tosno that easily. Moving forward was also not easy due to the forest and almost impassable forest roads. Combined with bad weather, the muddy roads were horrendous and close to completely useless, especially for the artillery. Eventually the Soviets retreated seeking safety of the river and their improvised fortifications.

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Soldiers trying to make their way through the forest

Two major battles were fought in the forest north-west of the town of Tosno. On the 22nd of November 1st Corps attacked the troops stationed there making sure the retreated troops from Leningrad could take a breather, eat a bit and get ready for the next fight. First the Finnish troops moved in and the Soviets tactically retreated while their artillery from the fortifications could do their work. Though with the density of the trees, not many casualties were suffered on the Finnish side. Next the left flank moved in pushing the Soviets back across the small Tosna River. On the 24th the right flank tried to push the Soviets back across the river, however, the Russian Captain in charge ordered his men to stand their ground, which they did. On the 25th in the middle of the night, a few Finnish companies crossed the river punching a hole in the defences. After a day of fighting the Finnish were close to surrounding the Soviet troops and most of the Soviets fled the scene leaving about 500 brave Russians inside three fortifications. On the 28th a decisive battle was fought where over 400 out of 500 Soviets were killed. The remaining troops surrendered.

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Battle in the forest north-west of the Soviet town of Tosno

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The battle near Tosno on the 24th of November

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The battle near Tosno on the 28th of November
 
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That gif of the battle is a very nice touch, good idea.
But I agree with TDM, manpower is critical now. Time for the Germans to step up and take over the brunt of the attack. How is their front looking?
 

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Tactical retreats and organized defences

After suffering heavy losses and the threat of the Mannerheim Plan failing, Mannerheim himself ordered a tactical retreat for most troops. This way a more controllable defense could be organized and new recruits could fill the gaps of certain divisions that suffered losses.

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Tactical retreats of north and central Corps

1st Corps was in charge of defending Leningrad and as part of the Plan, 2nd Corps moved to the middle front.

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2nd Corps on the move (left) and 1st Corps on the defense (right)

By the time the large scale retreat was completed, the defences were set and the Soviets had no immediate plans to attack, especially with the Germans pushing them back. For Finland this was a time to catch a breath and get troops organized again.

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Defensive lines on the north and middle front
 
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This was a small update, basically there was not much to tell :)

Loving the gifs :)

I'm now beginning to get worried about the attrition the Soviets can pull on you now though.

That gif of the battle is a very nice touch, good idea.
But I agree with TDM, manpower is critical now. Time for the Germans to step up and take over the brunt of the attack. How is their front looking?


Thanks to you both, I actually like to make them and I'm thinking of doing a similar thing with screenshots I made within the game :D.

I am a wee bit worried about attrition/MP, but I lack about 4 MP and I gain over 7 MP per month. So hence the tactical retreats and hopefully the Germans will step up, because if they don't I fear "I" will loose the game due to the AI.... at least I can blame them :D. The updates are almost up to speed with my game now (it's February in game), so now I can spend time again on playing. I'll post some screenshots of the eastern front and let me check what Japan is doing as well.
 

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The Battle of Schlisselburg

After over a month without any fighting, the troops were rested again and ready for the next step in Mannerheim’s plan. On January 12th the offense started and troops from Tosno and Osinovets marched towards the small town of Schlisselburg. With the frozen Ladoga Lake, the town could only be approached from west and south but also from the north almost encircling the town. At first the march seemed to be going well and without any encounters, though a day later the Soviets made a counter attack on the troops coming from Tosno, early in the morning. Late in the afternoon the troops from Osinovets were counter attacked by the Soviets. This pushed the Finnish troops towards Schlisselburg encircling them instead of the other way around. Being slightly outnumbered by the Soviets, 3 divisions together containing roughly 30,000 Finnish soldiers versus 3 infantry and 1 tank division containing roughly 32,000 Soviet soldiers, the Finns dug in and around the small harbour in Schlisselburg.

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There was only one division inside Schlissenburg defending it

On the 14th of January, the major battle started and for two straight days the fighting continued. The Soviet troops stationed in the city were driven out early in the morning of the 15th, escaping the city using the frozen lake. Although this was a small victory, there still were a lot of Soviets surrounding the town who kept on fighting. Finlands 1st (and only) squadron of fighters helped the ground units to victory. Firstly fighting off the Soviet IL-2’s one day and attacking the ground troops the next day. On January 16th the Soviets retreated their troops back to respectively Novaya Ladoga and Lyuban.

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Finnish Brewster B-239 defending the troops from air attacks and attacking Soviets on the ground

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Soviet artillery firing their load on the Finnish troops boxed in Schlisselburg

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After two days fighting, the Finnish are victorious

Progress was made by Finland, Germany on the other hand made little to no progress though Novgorod was under attack. For some reason the Germans were not motivated enough to push on during the cold winter. Finland was asked to help and was finding a way to make it possible to ensure the Germans would get their breakthrough, smashing Soviet defences.
 

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The Lakeside offensive

On the 22nd of January, Finland started the Lakeside offensive. With this offensive the land between Lake Ladoga and Lake Onega were to be captured in order to secure another border between Finland and the Soviet Union, and hopefully Germany in a later stage. 2nd Corps moved along the coast of Lake Ladoga, while 3rd Corps moved in a straight line towards Petrozadovsk, both pushing the small Soviet force back.

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The Lakeside offensive has started

The Soviets, at this time heavily outnumbered had little option than to move back. While retreating some main forces, the more experienced Soviets offered fierce resistance. Especially 3rd Corps stumbled upon Soviets who had no intention of giving up so easily. Hoping for reinforcements from the Motherland, the dug in Soviets hold on to their positions for roughly 10 days. Finally after another wave of Finnish soldiers, the Soviets gave up and retreated. In and south of Petrozadovsk a few Russian forces were waiting. Especially south of the town a division of medium armor would provide some problems for the Finnish brave warriors.

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The initial attacks are successful

2nd Corps met not much resistance with low morale and already retreating Soviets. Orders were to make a defensive line along the Svir river that runs between Lake Onega and Lake Ladoga. While 2nd Corps was secure the south, 3rd Corps was still fighting heavy battles. It took 3rd Corps about 10 days again to drive the Soviets back and to close them in. With only a slight corridor still left, the Finnish soldiers attacked the retreating Soviets and kept them busy to close the last chance of retreat. On March 9th, the remaining Soviets surrendered to Finland and the lands between Lake Ladoga and Lake Onega were under Finnish control.

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The Soviets are driven back
 

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that river connecting both lakes looks like a very beautiful border between Germany and Finland in the future
 

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My thoughts exactly guillec! ;). Though the Germans have to get moving, because they hardly moved in the north. So I think I have to help them somehow.
 

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I only just noticed, while reading Callanquinns thread, this AAR was nominated for the HOI3 Q4 2014 ACAs, many thanks for that TDM! Being nominated alone is an honour :). And with not much time left, be sure to nominate any AAR you'd like.
 

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Congratz Gormytorysh!
 

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Thanks :) though, I think Callen will take it home ;).
 

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that river connecting both lakes looks like a very beautiful border between Germany and Finland in the future

That river is known as river Svir (Syväri in Finnish) and was historically chosen to be the meeting point for Finnish and German troops. Finns succeeded and halted to wait for Germans. Just wondering if Germans are able to do it? :)
 

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I LOVE the gifs, seriously :D
How do you do them :|

okay i've said that one too many times :p

The river will indeed offer you excellent cover so that you can regain your MP and such. Battles like the one in Volo...whatever it's called where you lost 1.4k men are really hurting you :\
That's a nice pocket too though :)
 

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That river is known as river Svir (Syväri in Finnish) and was historically chosen to be the meeting point for Finnish and German troops. Finns succeeded and halted to wait for Germans. Just wondering if Germans are able to do it? :)

Thanks for the info :). And I am wondering as well. Haven't been able to play but up till now they have been far too inactive in the north and most action is in the south :(. Hopefully they manage to force a breakthrough there so the Soviets have to pay more attention to that rather than the extensive stacks of units along the northern border.

I LOVE the gifs, seriously :D
How do you do them :|

okay i've said that one too many times :p

The river will indeed offer you excellent cover so that you can regain your MP and such. Battles like the one in Volo...whatever it's called where you lost 1.4k men are really hurting you :\
That's a nice pocket too though :)

Thanks again and the gifs (had to do something to stand out as I am not the best writer..... far from it) are not that difficult. Just have a bunch of screenshots (or other jpg files) and go to the make a gif website. Follow those steps there and it's easy enough.... ;).
Yes the river should provide excellent cover and regaining MP is hard enough as it is. At the moment it fluctuates between 1 and -1, so it is not a major problem right now, but potentially can become one. Hopefully I can do some playing again this week and the Germans regain their senses :p. If they can secure the Svir river, I can take control over Karelia. Once that is done, I can help them with whatever plans they have. Perhaps even trying to set some boots on the British isles. If Germany doesn't step up, I fear they will be defeated and so will I..... Keeping my fingers crossed!

BTW, you can still vote for Q4 2014 ACA's.
 

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*sigh*..... once I had a CEO that sais: "Reward success, reward failure, punish inaction". A phrase that is totally applicable to the German AI in my current game. The "good" news is, I finished playing and now I need to sort all screenshots from playing all night. The bad news.....:

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In the second screenshot you can see only Yunnan and Finland are the last Axis members left..... so I am somewhat proud of holding on for so long, but also highly annoyed with how it happened. Ah well, nothing one nights sleep can solve. Sorry to burst a bubble here and there, but had to share my grievances publicly ;). More detailed ending of this AAR will follow over the next few days and when I have time to write (and the motivation which I lack at the moment :blink:).
 

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that was... unexpected to say the least... what exactly did the German AI so wrong?